[FRIAM] 15555-10253-closing-a-gap-to-normal-hearing---white-paper.pdf

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 1 08:17:59 EDT 2019


I think some people can understand speech pretty quickly but I don't know.
The babies probably learn to do so as well as their age peers but I don't
know that either.  Mike probably knows.

Frank

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On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 1:04 AM Nick Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> I will have to look at these.  They can’t parse words on first hearing,
> can they?   Mike knows a little about this area and he has told me some,
> but I need to know more.  What I think he has told me is that a relatively
> primitive input with relatively few leads gives a tremendous benefit, much
> more than one would expect from the complexity of the cochlea itself.
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Frank
> Wimberly
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2019 12:08 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM]
> 15555-10253-closing-a-gap-to-normal-hearing---white-paper.pdf
>
>
>
> Except for the young children.  They some and laugh.
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> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 11:55 AM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nick,
>
>
>
> Have you read about cochlear implant surgery?  When I worked at Eye and
> Ear Hospital of Pittsburgh, the lab I worked in was doing early research in
> the area.  These are pieces of hardware that transform sound into
> electrical signals meaningful to the brain.
>
>
>
> Have you seen the videos of people who have been deaf since birth who get
> such a device.  They inevitably sob when they hear sound for the first time.
>
>
>
> Frank
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> Frank Wimberly
>
> My memoir:
> https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly
>
> My scientific publications:
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2
>
> Phone (505) 670-9918
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 11:23 AM Nick Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Everybody,
>
>
>
> In the home congregation, we have had many interesting conversations about
> hearing in difficult environments, a conversation not only of intense
> interest to people interested in computer analysis and representation of
> sounds but also to a bunch of old guys shouting at each other in a crowded
> college dining area surrounded by hard surfaces.  Recently, we have been
> trying to assemble our limited knowledge of the cochlea and to grasp the
> fact that it is not a bank of discrete resonators doing a Fourier
> Transform, but an innervated sliver of meat with liquid on both sides
> coiled up in a tiny snail shell.   We are eager for any signs that a
> hearing aid company has started to reach beyond differential amplification
> by means of FFT to actually focusing on the cues that really matter for
> speech comprehension.
>
>
>
> Anyway, …. Anyway….. .  I skimmed through the “white paper” below and
> thought that, even though it is “captive” research, it had some interesting
> features.  Consequently, I thought I would pass it around to the list
> before I lost track of it.  My friend Jon Zingale accuses me of crowd
> sourcing my reading and that is EXACTLY what I am doing.  So, beware.
>
>
>
>
> https://wdh.azureedge.net/-/media/oticon-us/main/download-center/white-papers/15555-10253-closing-a-gap-to-normal-hearing---white-paper.pdf?la=en&rev=0FC7&hash=B7D7D58F75093770CA7E148F72520C1D6BE28CB1
>
> If anybody on the list knows of somebody doing advanced research on how
> the cochlea passes sound on to the brain and how the brain analyses it, we
> would love to hear from that person.
>
>
>
> And has for you young folks who think this will never happen to you:  have
> you noticed that your students and young associates and your daughter’s
> boyfriends MUMBLE.  The moment you find yourself saying, “Curse these
> millennials, why don’t they speak up like normal people,” you should be
> taking an interest in hearing technology.
>
>
>
> Just sayin’
>
>
>
> N
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