[FRIAM] Abduction
Nick Thompson
nickthompson at earthlink.net
Wed Jan 2 12:02:50 EST 2019
Dave,
I realize that you (and perhaps others of our colleagues here) are Dionysians, whereas I, always, have been a stalwart Apollonian. The difference, for me, is the risk one is willing to take for a peak experience of some sort. Some people organize their lives around their vacations and holidays. I hate holidays and vacations and organize my life around a steady diet of moderate pleasure. If you see what I mean. For instance, I have never dreamed about what mushrooms might do for me. Is that a fair statement of a difference between us?
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 7:05 AM
To: friam at redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Abduction
MDMA risks = dehydration, in part because it is usually taken in the context of frenetic physical activity like at a rave. Disinhibition can pose a secondary risk because partner selection is less discerning. Like too many drugs, long term effects / gender different effects / age different effects, are unknown because unstudied.
davew
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> The premise of the series is that a drug + counseling is used to
> mitigate PTSD symptoms, but in fact it ends-up deleting recent memories
> and was intended to make soldiers able to continue service.
>
> One might argue that accumulation of emotional trauma is part of one's
> personality, and relieving it destroys part of a person. One might
> also argue that to have just one personality, developing on a
> contiguous timeline, is a sort of arbitrary confinement -- like living
> in a freezer that just keeps getting colder.
>
> I don't know what the actual risks are of MDMA. Alcohol's side effects,
> in terms of impairment of judgement, are already pretty dangerous.
>
> Marcus
>
> On 1/1/19, 7:23 PM, "Friam on behalf of glen"
> <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't understand what you mean? Are you asking why psychedelics
> are not prescribable? Or saying that their therapeutic effect is
> negligible?
>
> FWIW, I haven't seen Homecoming.
>
> On January 1, 2019 11:28:28 AM PST, Marcus Daniels
> <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
> >Watching Homecoming I found myself thinking, "Yes, so what's the
> big
> >deal?"
> >
> >On 12/31/18, 1:40 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣"
> ><friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of gepropella at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > We're getting closer EVERY DAY!
> >
> > https://psi-2020.org/
> >
> > Oh, and if anyone needs a charity to toss some 2018 money at:
> >
> > https://maps.org/
> >
> --
> glen
>
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