[FRIAM] Ownership of expired patent

[Ron Newman]

P.S.  A more subtle question is what if I rewrote the formerly-patented
application in a different language.  Does a work-for-hire cover ideas?  I
think it does.

Ron Newman, M.S., M.M.E.
Founder, IdeaTreeLive.com <http://www.Ideatreelive.com> Knowledge Modeling
www.RonPiano.com
Blog <https://blog.ideatreelive.com>






On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 4:11 PM Ron Newman <ron.newman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the patent, which is non-renewable, and the code implementing the
> patent are two separate things.  The first they lose rights over, but the
> second is covered by a work-for-hire agreement since it could be used
> internally, or even sold as a product by the corporation without patent.
> But I could be wrong.
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> Ron Newman, M.S., M.M.E.
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> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 4:06 PM Tom Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote:
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>> Would not the corporation have to renew the patent at some point?
>> Tom
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>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 3:55 PM Ron Newman <ron.newman at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> I was awarded a software patent 30 years ago while at a corporate job.
>>> That patent has since expired, of course.  I assume I signed a
>>> work-for-hire agreement the first day on that job.
>>>
>>> Now that it's expired, I also assume the corporation still owns the
>>> code, and so I'm not free to open source it.  Correct?
>>>
>>> Any IP attorneys here?
>>>
>>> Ron Newman, M.S., M.M.E.
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>>> Modeling
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