[FRIAM] words RE: words

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Tue May 7 21:25:47 EDT 2019


Emergent: hexagonality of snowflakes.  Can we predict that from water vapor
and cold?

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On Tue, May 7, 2019, 5:58 PM Nick Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> Marcus,
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> Of course I see [now] why he was annoyed.   And I apologized.  And I won’t
> do it again.  And I have tried to explain (and I think Glen has more or
> less accepted) that my intent was not aggressive.
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> Not sure how that relates to the question I asked you.  Are games
> instances in good standing of emergent phenomena?
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> Nick
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> Nicholas S. Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcus
> Daniels
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 07, 2019 2:59 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words
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>
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> No, I meant that Glen is right and you are wrong, in spite of the
> superficial transactional evidence back and forth.    Actual quotation
> marks, and you can’t see why is he annoyed?
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> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Nick Thompson <
> nickthompson at earthlink.net>
> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 2:53 PM
> *To: *'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words
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> Sorry, Marcus, do I misunderstand?  Or did I misunderstand Frank?
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> A pingpong game is not a proper emergent?
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> Cf tennis and chess:
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> To call a social interaction a
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> dance is to stress the *peraction *of social agents. When agents peract,
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> they act *through *or *by means of *one another. Each has a state
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> of affairs toward which his or her behavior is directed, and that
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> state of affairs requires certain actions on the part of the social
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> partner. The behavior of each actor is therefore directed toward
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> using the other as a tool to produce a particular desirable result.
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> The dialectic between their peractions *is *the dance. From an observer’s
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> standpoint, the best dances, like the best chess games and
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> the best tennis matches, are those in which neither peractant entirely
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> gets his or her own way.
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> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com
> <friam-bounces at redfish.com>] *On Behalf Of *Marcus Daniels
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 07, 2019 2:04 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words
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> No, not really.
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> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <
> wimberly3 at gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 1:43 PM
> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words
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> To the outside observer, a ping pong game has emerged.
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> Frank Wimberly
>
> My memoir:
> https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly
>
> My scientific publications:
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2
>
> Phone (505) 670-9918
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 1:38 PM uǝlƃ ☣ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No. Again, I would never say that. Why are you interacting this way? What
> are you trying to achieve by attributing things to me that I didn't write?
>
> On 5/7/19 12:36 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> > "Emergence is in the eye of the beholder." G. Ropella, 2019
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> --
> ☣ uǝlƃ
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