[FRIAM] words RE: words

[Nick Thompson]

Ok, so, Lee.  I keep getting my ears boxed for misinterpreting people. So.
If my understanding of your metaphor is wrong, what is yours?  

And to your earlier post, is emergence (or phase change) anything more than
the failure of induction?  If I asked Conway or Wolfram why does this thing,
which has been doing X for generations suddenly do Y, what would be their
answer?  If I rig a bomb with a clock so that it goes off on the ten
thousandth "tick", have I created an emergent phenomenon?  I think not, but
why not?  

But answer the first question, first.  I really want to know what you meant
by your analogical aphorism.

Nick


Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/


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Nick thinks:

> As I think Lee would say (dammit, Lee, where are you?), don't ask a 
> fish about water; he knows nothing of it.

I would not say that; I have always thought it was a particularly silly
thing to say.  Since there are approximately 30 more messages to work
through, I won't expand on why I think it's silly unless necessary, and in
any case later.  (But I was quite serious in my earlier four-term analogy to
the effect that "water" is to "fish" as whatever it was--emergence?--is to
whatever they were--coders?)


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