[FRIAM] Programming Languages

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 10 12:35:29 EDT 2020


If I had stayed at Bell Labs I might have learned Erlang.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Bob Ballance <ballance at swcp.com> wrote:

> At the first conference on Object-oriented Frameworks for Scientific
> Programming, the room divided more or less down the center. On one side,
> attendees said “I love overloaded operators in C++ because I can make my
> code look just like the physics equations.” On the other side, attendees
> said “I love overloaded operators in C++ because I can make my code look
> just like FORTRAN.”
>
> These days, I focus on  Elixir and Erlang, both functional languages that
> share the same virtual machine so they are interoperable. Elixir has a
> gentler syntax, but Erlang has the more powerful libraries. Erlang also has
> a pretty well-developed interface into C, since they originally used it to
> control telephone switches.
>
> … bob
>
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Roger Frye <frye.roger at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Galileo wrote in Italian in *Opera Il Saggiatore*
>
> [The universe] cannot be read until we have learnt the language and become
> familiar with the characters in which it is written. It is written in
> mathematical language, and the letters are triangles, circles and other
> geometrical figures, without which means it is humanly impossible to
> comprehend a single word.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 10:55 PM Russell Standish <lists at hpcoders.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 11:13:36AM -0600, Prof David West wrote:
>> >
>> > For specific domains, a language that allows easy, straightforward
>> expression
>> > of domain concepts is superior. COBOL for business applications, FORTRAN
>> > (FORTRESS, Guy Steele's parallel FORTRAN) for physics, and some
>> intentional
>> > DSL's.
>>
>> I disagree with Fortran being ideal for Physics - probably some
>> combination of Python or Julia would be. Actually, I'm hard pressed to
>> find an obvious niche for Fortran these days - C++ is now a better
>> language for High Performance Computing applications, for
>> instance. Fortran has hung around in certain areas for cultural
>> reasons.
>>
>> Can't comment too much about Cobol for business applications, but I
>> would have thought Java or C# might be more suited.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
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