[FRIAM] Science Commits Suicide

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Tue Jun 2 11:56:18 EDT 2020


Jochen, 

 

My evidence about the brothers Weinstein comes solely from that one, brother-to-brother, podcast which I watched with utter (watching a trainwreck) fascination.  I have never met an academic who doesn’t think that, in some sense, s/he deserves a Nobel prize.  Some of us are consumed by it, and, I am guessing, it’s those folks get the Nobel prizes.  The rest of us live out happy lives of muted disappointment.  As I read that podcast, Bret was not consumed by it; Eric, on the other hand, was consumed by Bret’s lack of consumption.  Sounds like a soap opera, doesn’t it?  Cult of the Individual.   

 

I was so moved by it, I have been drafting a letter to them, which is only a synopsis of all that it stirred up in me.  Perhaps you would like to see it.  God know it would never break through to them.  In any case, I recommend you throw out your Vioxx.  

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:19 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Science Commits Suicide

 

I have heard of Penrose and his idea of Quantum Consciousness. Some of the Weinstein podcasts are interesting. But Eric works for Peter Thiel, who has not the best image. And Bret seems to be eaten up by his bitterness and revenge fantasies, because Carol Greider has stolen his idea and got the Nobel Prize and he has nothing.

 

>From my own experience in the academic world I can confirm that there is a true core behind the myth (or conspiracy theory) of the DISC.

 

-J.

 

 

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From: Jon Zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com <mailto:jonzingale at gmail.com> > 

Date: 6/2/20 00:33 (GMT+01:00) 

To: friam at redfish.com <mailto:friam at redfish.com>  

Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Science Commits Suicide 

 

Jochen,

 

What is kind of funny is that two episodes later,

rather than forcefully pushing his DISC-obsessed

program forward, he invites Roger Penrose <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg93Dm-vYc8>  on to

the show to have a really satisfying and very

straightforward discussion of mathematics and

physics. They talk Gauge theory, Riemannian

geometry, light cones, the mass of particles,

spinors, twistors, Aharonov-Bohm, Maxwell,

Lie groups, and what makes 15 dimensional

spaces unique.

 

Jon

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