[FRIAM] Acid epistemology - Eric Help!!!!

[thompnickson2 at gmail.com]

Glen --

In the absence of other commentary, you are perhaps a good bell-wether of whether (?) we should Dave and I should take this offlist.  I don’t think the topic of acid epistemology is inappropriate to the list, but if he and I are the only people paying attention, and even YOU are bored, then perhaps now is the time for us to bag it. 

Nick 

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
 


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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 3:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - Eric Help!!!!

Why?! Oh why do y'all keep talking about unscientific things when you could be talking about scientific things? Dave's report about what goes on at a conference is, to me, *exactly* the same as Dave's report about any other experience he may have had, high or sober. They're both anecdotal at best.

Why talk about the truth-status of unicorns when we could be talking about the reliability of predictors of *categories* of experiences like this:

Neuroticism is associated with challenging experiences with psilocybin mushrooms.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28781400

> Abstract
> 
> OBJECTIVES:
> Classic hallucinogens (e.g. psilocybin and LSD) have substantial effects on perception, cognition, and emotion that can often be psychologically challenging, however we know very little regarding the source of significant individual variability that has been observed in the frequency and intensity of challenging experiences (i.e. "bad trips") with psychedelics. Previous clinical and observational literature suggests that there may be an association between neuroticism and challenging psychedelic experiences.
> 
> METHODS:
> Data from two online surveys of challenging experiences with psilocybin were analyzed. Multivariate analysis was used to estimate the associations between total score and scores from seven sub-factors (fear, grief, physical distress, insanity, isolation, death, and paranoia) of the Challenging Experience Questionnaire (CEQ), and scale scores from the Ten Item Personality Inventory (TIPI) in Study 1 (N=1993) and the Big Five Inventory (BFI) in Study 2 (N = 981).
> 
> RESULTS:
> CEQ scores were negatively associated with emotional stability scores (the inverse of neuroticism) in Study 1 and positively associated with neuroticism scores in Study 2.
> 
> CONCLUSIONS:
> Neuroticism may contribute to the strength of challenging experiences in uncontrolled settings.



On 3/9/20 10:36 AM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> First, let’s go back to unicorns.
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