[FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism

[Marcus Daniels]

Temporary refrigeration for some FRIAM members?  Just until it all blows over?  

On 3/11/20, 9:30 AM, "Friam on behalf of thompnickson2 at gmail.com" <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi Dave, 
    
    Well, at the very least, the kind of information that would convince me to take a somewhat dodgy drug to fend off covid19.  
    
    N
    
    Nicholas Thompson
    Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
    Clark University
    ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
    https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
     
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Prof David West
    Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:05 AM
    To: friam at redfish.com
    Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism
    
    May I add — what would convince you that psychedelic experiences are worth of the same kind of investigation as "ordinary" experiences.
    
    davew
    
    
    On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 3:18 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:
    > Well, I definitely privilege scientific ways of knowing more than any 
    > other way of knowing [†]. So I don't disagree with what you *say*. But 
    > it seems to me that *you* don't privilege scientific knowledge in 
    > these discussions. You talk a LOT about philosophy and metaphysics, 
    > but not much about scientific results. The recent 'round and 'round 
    > about "sledgehammers", Peirce's metaphysics, or whatnot, largely 
    > ignoring any attempts to discuss psychedelic research and medicine, 
    > seems to imply that you do not privilege science.
    > 
    > So, maybe if I pull out the old saw again?  If results published in 
    > peer-reviewed literature and clinical trial data will NOT convince you 
    > that psychedelics can be used as medicine, then what WOULD convince 
    > you? If nothing will ever convince you, then you certainly do NOT 
    > privilege science.
    > 
    > 
    > [†] It ain't perfect; and it ain't the only kind of knowledge. But 
    > it's the best we have.
    > 
    > On 3/10/20 11:03 AM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
    > > No, I am not sure that Dave and Glen would disagree with any of this.
    > 
    > --
    > ☣ uǝlƃ
    > 
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