[FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism

[Frank Wimberly]

Nick just sent me a similar question offline.  A compromise might be a)  if
you're sneezing and coughing don't come. b) no touching such as handshakes.
c) no handing cellphones to others to share e.g. photos. d)  stay home if
attendance makes you anxious e) similar common sense policies.

Comments?

Frank


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Frank C. Wimberly
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 11:01 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> Temporary refrigeration for some FRIAM members?  Just until it all blows
> over?
>
> On 3/11/20, 9:30 AM, "Friam on behalf of thompnickson2 at gmail.com" <
> friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi Dave,
>
>     Well, at the very least, the kind of information that would convince
> me to take a somewhat dodgy drug to fend off covid19.
>
>     N
>
>     Nicholas Thompson
>     Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>     Clark University
>     ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
>     https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Prof David West
>     Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:05 AM
>     To: friam at redfish.com
>     Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism
>
>     May I add — what would convince you that psychedelic experiences are
> worth of the same kind of investigation as "ordinary" experiences.
>
>     davew
>
>
>     On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 3:18 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:
>     > Well, I definitely privilege scientific ways of knowing more than
> any
>     > other way of knowing [†]. So I don't disagree with what you *say*.
> But
>     > it seems to me that *you* don't privilege scientific knowledge in
>     > these discussions. You talk a LOT about philosophy and metaphysics,
>     > but not much about scientific results. The recent 'round and 'round
>     > about "sledgehammers", Peirce's metaphysics, or whatnot, largely
>     > ignoring any attempts to discuss psychedelic research and medicine,
>     > seems to imply that you do not privilege science.
>     >
>     > So, maybe if I pull out the old saw again?  If results published in
>     > peer-reviewed literature and clinical trial data will NOT convince
> you
>     > that psychedelics can be used as medicine, then what WOULD convince
>     > you? If nothing will ever convince you, then you certainly do NOT
>     > privilege science.
>     >
>     >
>     > [†] It ain't perfect; and it ain't the only kind of knowledge. But
>     > it's the best we have.
>     >
>     > On 3/10/20 11:03 AM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
>     > > No, I am not sure that Dave and Glen would disagree with any of
> this.
>     >
>     > --
>     > ☣ uǝlƃ
>     >
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