[FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism

[thompnickson2 at gmail.com]

Glen, 

Beans and rice, yes. 

Studies that show that research groups that have a philosopher on call produce better research than those that do not, yes. 

Nick 

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
 


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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 12:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism

No. Go to the meeting. Follow Frank's advice. And stop at the store on the way home to buy some beans and rice. 

I don't care at all about what philosophers might say about philosophers' contributions to science. That's the point. I need to see some *scientific* studies of whether conversations like this contribute to science. That's what I mean by eating your own dog food. If you claim to privilege science, then actually cite or do some science.


On 3/11/20 11:00 AM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> Re Renee:  If she were the Friam Health Officer, would she suspend our weekly meeting of septuagenarians in a college dining hall?  For her information, there are exactly zero diagnosed cases of the virus in NM at the moment.
> 
> I agree with you.  It’s certainly not death I fear.  Its that moment when Penny and I are crawling to the front door to gnaw at boxes of sugar frosted flakes that the fire department has left at our door.  That moment I fear.
> 
> [...]
> 
> */[NST===>] No, no, Glen.  Be fair.  That’s OUR dogfood I would be 
> eating.  So the question would be, Does a science move more slowly or 
> more rapidly toward convergence on enduring understandings with or 
> without logical understandings?  Can philosophers point to cases where 
> they have clearly contributed to development and/or dissemination of 
> empirical knowledge?  I know that many philosophers of science have 
> been dubious about it. .  I would quickly cite Peirce as an example 
> given that his focus on the practicial consequences of concepts (their 
> consequences in practice) helped to move behavioral sciences on during 
> subsequent 50 years. Somebody must of made that case.  I will shake 
> some bushes.  /*

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