[FRIAM] Choroquine-phosphate Death

[Frank Wimberly]

I thought he was referring to Trump.  Am I missing something?

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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 10:09 AM Michel Bloch <mbloch at mountvernon.fr> wrote:

> I don’t if Professor Raoult is right or not, but, for him, the word
> « idiot » is inappropriate, you might use “character » or “unusual” or
> “bizarre”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Raoult#Citations
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> Amicalement
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> Michel Bloch
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> *De :* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *De la part de* Steven A Smith
> *Envoyé :* mardi 24 mars 2020 16:27
> *À :* friam at redfish.com
> *Objet :* Re: [FRIAM] Choroquine-phosphate Death
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> On 3/24/20 8:56 AM, Prof David West wrote:
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> France is pushing chloroquine hard. A FriAMer has relatives there.
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> Just because the first person that told people about this was an idiot
> does not make the information wrong.
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> He was far from the first, just the loudest/brashest.   He *would* have us
> believe that he personally *discovered* this off-label use...   but that IS
> how he rolls.. no surprises.
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> There is a presumed responsibility when you have a megaphone.  But that is
> one of the broken norms for worse (and better).
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> The unintended consequences of his mass-tweet/news-conference/rally
> announcements are sweeping.  I do not believe he *intended* to cause a slam
> on the chloroquine supply chain, nor for self-described self-reliant folks
> like the AZ couple to run out and make a small/obvious but terminal mistake.
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> davew
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Barry MacKichan wrote:
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> Elon Musk had a serious brush with malaria about 20 years ago, and is
> evidently one of the insistent sources pushing for chloroquine. Sorry, I
> don’t have references.
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> —Barry
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> On 24 Mar 2020, at 0:42, Steven A Smith wrote:
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> My first reaction to this was:  THANK YOU DEAR LEADER!
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> https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/man-died-chloroquine-phosphate-coronavirus
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> But, I don't know if we can attribute this kind of accident to POTUS45
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> or not... my gut instinct is that his constant raving about it is what
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> triggered these people to give it a whirl.
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> I have one toe in the survivalist/prepper community and they are known
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> for aquiring and stockpiling antibiotics sold for fish/aquariums.   All
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> the major human antibiotics have fish equivalents FishMox and FishFlox
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> for example.   There is much discussion/lore/wisdom in that community
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> around which products/sources are actually pharmaceutical-grade and
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> honest-dosage and well-regulated.   I didn't know of chloroquine
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> phosphate or it's use... they are saying "cleaning" but I think they
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> mean disinfecting.  It sounds to me that the problem was dosage, not
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> contamination, but the product they used may have been cut or mixed with
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> something toxic to humans.
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> I've a friend who lived in Ghana for years with Peace Corps who
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> contracted malaria and was medicated with one of the chloroquine drugs.
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> He understood then (25 years ago) that it was the third world's
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> "silver-bullet" and in his case it turned his symptoms around
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> (life-threatening) in hours (on an IV).... his response to this
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> prescription-from-POTUS is that the death rate in the third world could
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> spike if the first world diverts their supply (probably coming from
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> China?) abruptly for  our own use.
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> I also heard that patients depending on these chloroquines in the first
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> world are already finding that the supplies are drying up and many
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> cannot get their usual refills.   Doh!
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