[FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve

thompnickson2 at gmail.com thompnickson2 at gmail.com
Fri May 1 17:36:22 EDT 2020


Well, is it any harder than working out what my point of view is?   

"hard" is a relative term.

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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Ha! Again, you contradict yourself. You've said repeatedly that you haven't gained the computational skills you thought you might gain by engaging with the complexity club. So, it's *not* easy for you, even if you claim it is. 

I suppose we might say that, when first presented with a perspective/experience/talent that you don't (yet) have but you see another person has, then you might think "Hey, that doesn't look hard. I'll just practice." And I suspect some people do find affinities with such things... e.g. some people seem to pick up foreign languages easier than others. But then there's the *degree* of mastery. Sure, I can play 10 Little Indians on the keyboard. But I'll *never* have the experience of a really good piano player.

If such things are easy for you, then congratulations!  But I doubt you're telling the truth. 8^) I suspect you find such things just as hard as I do.

On 5/1/20 2:03 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> I agree that the problem is the same as the problem of working out what your point of view would be from where you are standing.  If that is a hard problem for you, I trust your judgement, for the moment, until more evidence is in, that its hard for you. However,  it doesn’t seem hard for me, although, if further evidence were presented to me, I might be convinced otherwise. 
> 
> Do we agree on what sort of evidence would be required to convince you that the problem is easy for you or me that the problem is hard for me?

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