[FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve

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Yup.  That’s what he would say.  What persuades you that a super competent computer can’t think?  Can a dog think?  How would a Martian convince you that it (he, she) can think?  

 

Nick 

 

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 9:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve

 

Maybe I missed something that makes this redundant but if a highschool student asked me what the hard problem is I would say:  There appears to be no limit to how competent computers can be.  They seem to be able to do just about anything that people think requires thought.  But I am persuaded that they can't think.  What makes the difference between thinking people and hypercompetent computers? 

 

Nick would say if it behaves as if it thinks then it thinks.  I think.

 

Frank

 

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 7:50 PM Steven A Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com <mailto:sasmyth at swcp.com> > wrote:

I thought this was a support group for recovering (or just
self-indulgent) metaphorists... you mean it's not?   Why do I feel like
I'm in a scene from "Fight Club"?   I guess that would make me more of
an allegorist?

> Is it? You people can't help yourselves. It's compulsive. You might want to get some help for that.
>
> On 5/4/20 10:47 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
>> Choosing one's rifle is so concrete.  It makes me want to run out and blow away a few cacti.  Oh, it's a metaphor!

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