[FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve

[Roger Critchlow]

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On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 5:08 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> Oh, you SAY you do.   Someday we’ll get Neuralink hardware on you and then
> WE WILL SEE.
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> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <
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> *Date: *Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:04 PM
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> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve
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> Dammit, Nick.  I can and frequently do spend hours planning, remembering,
> composing emails, fantasizing about my next car, etc  without exhibiting
> any remarkable behavior beyond eyeblinking, touching my face (don't!),
> crossing and uncrossing my legs.  We've been through this before but  what
> is my latest plan about what to do when my auto lease is up?  No one knows
> but me despite your claim that I don't have private access to these kinds
> of things.
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> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:36 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,Glen,
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> Careful.  Isn't the formulation "inner world" entirely contradictory?
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> Nicholas Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
> Clark University
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> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:50 PM
> To: FriAM <friam at redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve
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> However, I think we can come up with a (maybe someday) testable hypothesis
> based on hidden states. In principle, if EricC's principle is taken
> seriously, the inner world of a black box device will be *completely*
> represented on its surface (ala the holographic principle). Any information
> not exhibited by a black box's *behavior* will be lost/random.
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> This implies something about the compressibility and information content
> of the black box's behavior, right?
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> On 5/5/20 10:38 AM, Prof David West wrote:
> > This does not advance an argument against the possibility of a computer
> thinking — merely an assertion that "behavior" is not a valid basis upon
> which to argue that they do.
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