[FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

Eric Charles eric.phillip.charles at gmail.com
Tue May 12 18:59:15 EDT 2020


Frank,
Well.... I think conclusions drawn from fMRI results are dramatically
overblown, but the results themselves are mostly decent.... but if we
side-step that discussion to focus on your broader question as I understand
it:

If *you*, personally, did the type of experiment that got that result, but
use thought of a covariant tensors instead of cups at every appropriate
point, then yes, you would probably end up with a highly-constrained
multi-variate regression equation that could do a pretty good job
predicting whether or not you were thinking of a covariant tensor during a
given trial.

Of course, you couldn't use a typical college freshman for that experiment,
which makes it a lot harder to do the work, and the result wouldn't get as
much press afterwards, which makes it harder to find a researcher willing
to put in the effort. ;- )

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Eric P. Charles, Ph.D.
Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologist
American University - Adjunct Instructor
<echarles at american.edu>


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:45 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Less public.  Last I heard with fMRI they might be able to detect that
> you're thinking of a coffee cup.  I rarely think of cups.  Could the detect
> that I was thinking of a covariant tensor?
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> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 10:58 AM Jon Zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Glen, Eric,
>>
>> I am enjoying how the conversation is developing. The celery
>> example strikes me as being important, but where Glen refers
>> to *scale* I would speak of *domain of definition*. That a shift in
>> domain happens to be size, rather than some other contextual
>> specification, may not be what we want. If this isn't the case
>> Glen, please let me know. With respect to Eric's points it seems
>> fair to me to say that a paddle wheel is behaving, but perhaps not
>> in the *larger* context of the river. The celery is behaving, but not
>> not in the *smaller* context of capillary action. Here I am using
>> the language of *large* and *small*, but perhaps other modalities
>> have a place as well. One can say Nick's behavior appears
>> spontaneously, but in fact was necessitated by something *prior*.
>> Here an *earlier* Nick could play the role of the river.
>>
>> Frank,
>> Would you say that the mind is as public as RSA encryption?
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