[FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

[Frank Wimberly]

"And as the ant, did you have any apprehension of that *huge* mammal
dragging dead branches around and waving a saw? "

No.  I could feel his determination to deal with the branches and felt (my
feeling as the mammal) that he was uninterested in me.  But that empathic
experience of lack of empathy was apparently mistaken.  Who is speaking?


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:01 PM Steven A Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

> Frank -
> > I was just outside sawing up dead branches.  I noticed a large ant
> > struggling to carry a piece of vegetation larger than it was over
> > obstacles in a general direction which did not change notwithstanding
> > the obstacles.  It was very hard not to feel the ant's intentionality
> > and determination.  I was experiencing the ant as the ant.  Extreme
> > empathy.
>
> Just reading this made my jaws (mandibles) ache (horizontally)!
>
> But I couldn't really image the third pair of appendages (middle for me,
> between my hind/forelimbs) helping me struggle.
>
> But I did have a (likely highly mistargeted) olphactory analog of
> pheremone trails/fields in that image.  It came through more as a taste
> than a smell.
>
> And as the ant, did you have any apprehension of that *huge* mammal
> dragging dead branches around and waving a saw?
>
> - Steve
>
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