[FRIAM] "higher" education

[Frank Wimberly]

Excellent, Cody.

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On Fri, May 29, 2020, 12:44 PM cody dooderson <d00d3rs0n at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is a nice talk to the graduates of Harvard
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1001&v=jSn_QW9FFiI&feature=emb_logo
> .
>
> Cody Smith
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:21 PM Gary Schiltz <gary at naturesvisualarts.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know if my attitudes have an objective basis, or if I am just
>> envious of folks whose degrees are from Ivy League schools. My father had
>> only a sixth grade education and my mother eighth grade, and Dad never
>> earned over two dollars an hour, so an expensive University was out of the
>> question. So I went to Kansas State University in the 1970s and early 1980s
>> and got what I thought was an adequate education (BS in Biology and MS in
>> Computer Science) spread out over nearly ten years. In-state tuition, no
>> doubt subsidized by the State of Kansas, was between $500 and $1000 per
>> semester. Working as a software engineer, my salary was always somewhere in
>> the mid range, and I didn't mind. I think my career was more rewarding to
>> me than if I had incurred huge debts at a more top-tier University in order
>> to get higher paying jobs. I guess my point is that higher education could
>> be a whole lot more affordable without throwing out the face-to-face model
>> entirely.
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:08 AM Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Scott Galloway (professor at  Stern School of business and supposed
>>> authority) on universities post COVID.
>>>
>>> Fifty percent of the investment in prestige university education is for
>>> 'certification' —  degree that signals your lifetime earnings. The Harvard
>>> brand is strong enough that students will accept an inferior educational
>>> experience. The fifty biggest university brands, Harvard, Stanford, etc,
>>> will partner with tech giants like Apple or Facebook to create a hybrid
>>> university, most others will hollow out and die like the large department
>>> store chains. Dorm life and in-person experience will be reserved for
>>> children of the 1%.
>>>
>>> Pretty bleak and a commentary on previous FRIAM conversations about
>>> education and elite universities.
>>>
>>> davew
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