[FRIAM] "higher" education

Dean Gerber pd_gerber at yahoo.com
Fri May 29 16:31:54 EDT 2020


 Thanks for the link Cody.  That was a fine talk.  Dean Gerber
    On Friday, May 29, 2020, 12:44:05 PM MDT, cody dooderson <d00d3rs0n at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Here is a nice talk to the graduates of Harvard https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1001&v=jSn_QW9FFiI&feature=emb_logo. 
Cody Smith

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:21 PM Gary Schiltz <gary at naturesvisualarts.com> wrote:

I don't know if my attitudes have an objective basis, or if I am just envious of folks whose degrees are from Ivy League schools. My father had only a sixth grade education and my mother eighth grade, and Dad never earned over two dollars an hour, so an expensive University was out of the question. So I went to Kansas State University in the 1970s and early 1980s and got what I thought was an adequate education (BS in Biology and MS in Computer Science) spread out over nearly ten years. In-state tuition, no doubt subsidized by the State of Kansas, was between $500 and $1000 per semester. Working as a software engineer, my salary was always somewhere in the mid range, and I didn't mind. I think my career was more rewarding to me than if I had incurred huge debts at a more top-tier University in order to get higher paying jobs. I guess my point is that higher education could be a whole lot more affordable without throwing out the face-to-face model entirely.
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:08 AM Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm> wrote:

Scott Galloway (professor at  Stern School of business and supposed authority) on universities post COVID.

Fifty percent of the investment in prestige university education is for 'certification' —  degree that signals your lifetime earnings. The Harvard brand is strong enough that students will accept an inferior educational experience. The fifty biggest university brands, Harvard, Stanford, etc, will partner with tech giants like Apple or Facebook to create a hybrid university, most others will hollow out and die like the large department store chains. Dorm life and in-person experience will be reserved for children of the 1%.

Pretty bleak and a commentary on previous FRIAM conversations about education and elite universities.

davew

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