[FRIAM] Science Commits Suicide

Jochen Fromm jofr at cas-group.net
Sun May 31 01:24:10 EDT 2020


Distributed Idea Suppression Complex (DISC). Fascinating. Have our scientific institutions turned partially into a DISC, which is the opposite of science that tries to find out the truth? https://youtu.be/QxnkGymKuuI-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Jon Zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com> Date: 5/30/20  19:49  (GMT+01:00) To: friam at redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Science Commits Suicide Dave, Nick, Jochen, et al.For those not already familiar with the Eric Weinstein Portalpodcast, there is a really great episode with Eric's brother Bret.Bret is an evolutionary theorist (and biologist) who became thecenter of a fairly interesting controversy at Evergreen a coupleof years ago. While that story is interesting in its own right, as ithas to do cancel culture and the topics DeDeo and Rutt werediscussing at Oxford, the podcast goes on to discuss howcounter to its stated goals institutionalized science can be.Eric puts the narrative in terms of a Distributed Idea SuppressionComplex, a theme he revisits with many of his podcast guests.Eric himself is no slouch. He is a mathematician whose focusis gauge field theory and now finds applications to finance.Especially interesting in Bret's story is the uncoverings/speculationsaround corruption which does/can exist in the peer-review process.Contrast this with the tremendously naive, and much more nationallysyndicated, perspective of the new Daily Show host, Trevor Noah.Here he is arguing that "People shouldn't be able to put out studiesbefore they've been verified". Before this statement and after hemakes some ambiguous gestures at the necessity of peer-review inthe truth making process. To my mind, he misses an understandingof the value of preprints and the pitfalls expressed by Eric and Bret.OTOH, he is a comedian.Jon
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