[FRIAM] election eve

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 4 14:38:18 EST 2020


Thanks, Rog.  He's right, Nick.

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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 12:25 PM Roger Critchlow <rec at elf.org> wrote:

> Oh, go ahead and relax, what can you do about it?
>
> -- rec --
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 1:12 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nick,
>>
>> See Glen's 270 to 267 estimate.  Biden may still win either Georgia or
>> Pennsylvania or both because of the Democrat majority that is likely among
>> the uncounted votes.  If any of that happens Biden wins with a margin.
>>
>> But it's too close for relaxation.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> ---
>> Frank C. Wimberly
>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
>> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>>
>> 505 670-9918
>> Santa Fe, NM
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 11:05 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>> If you want to live in the bubble for a few more hours, try
>>>
>>> https://abc.com/watch-live/abc-news
>>>
>>> Marcus,  The message I am getting from those folks is something like:
>>> "We tried rationality for 50 years and look where it got us;  let's try
>>> crazy for 4 more years."
>>>
>>> I know two trump supporters quite well.  Mind you, we don't talk
>>> politics that much.  Both are owners of small businesses who have led the
>>> highly regulated lives that folks must lead if they are going to make money
>>> in a politically diverse community.  Both [thought they] saw gains from the
>>> Tax Cuts.  I think both think the economic policies have been good for them
>>> and they find the crazy stuff kinda fun.  Like a bit of a wild fling.  They
>>> certainly don't take those things any more seriously than I took Clinton,
>>> with whatsername under the Resolute Desk, while he was negotiating with the
>>> Majority Leader.  Tsk Tsk, I say and them move on.  That's what they do,
>>> and they cannot under stand why I am scared by Trump, any more than I could
>>> understand why they were scared by Obama.  I once called one of my
>>> relatives in Texas during the bush/Kerry election, because she had been
>>> born in Massachusetts and I thought she could help me understand. "I think
>>> that man is dangerous," she said.  I agreed, thinking she was talking about
>>> Bush.  "Yes," she went on.  "No telling what he will do if he and the
>>> democrats get in."
>>>
>>> Kerry, DANGEROUS?  My god that man was scared of getting tomato sauce on
>>> his polo shirt.  But she really was quaking with fear..  Just like I am
>>> now.
>>>
>>> The one I really am scared of is McConnell.  Hitler got in because the
>>> cartels that dominated German politics thought they could "use" him. Look
>>> how that turned out.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> Nicholas Thompson
>>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>>> Clark University
>>> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
>>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:24 AM
>>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>>> friam at redfish.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] election eve
>>>
>>> Yeah, the main take home to me is the same as before:  Almost half the
>>> country is batshit crazy.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ???
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:22 AM
>>> To: friam at redfish.com
>>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] election eve
>>>
>>> Right. So both the guardian and nyt show called Biden: 227, Trump: 213
>>> with PA(20), NC(15), and GA(16) toward Trump and MI(16), WI(10), NV(6), and
>>> AZ(11) toward Biden.
>>>
>>> 227+16+10+11+6 = 270
>>> 213+3+15+20+16 = 267
>>>
>>> I don't think there's a reason to be optimistic ... cautiously or not.
>>> Regardless of which value the artificially binary outcome lands on, it's
>>> the closeness of it that causes the problems.
>>>
>>> On 11/4/20 9:08 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>>> > Biden has got a 270 vs. 267 last time I checked, assuming he can’t
>>> take Pennsylvania.
>>>
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