[FRIAM] election eve

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Wed Nov 4 15:09:24 EST 2020


Easy for you to say.  Like telling me to grow a pancreas.

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 1:38 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] election eve

 

Thanks, Rog.  He's right, Nick.

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 12:25 PM Roger Critchlow <rec at elf.org <mailto:rec at elf.org> > wrote:

Oh, go ahead and relax, what can you do about it?

 

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 1:12 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com <mailto:wimberly3 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Nick,

 

See Glen's 270 to 267 estimate.  Biden may still win either Georgia or Pennsylvania or both because of the Democrat majority that is likely among the uncounted votes.  If any of that happens Biden wins with a margin.  

 

But it's too close for relaxation.

 

Frank

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 11:05 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com <mailto:thompnickson2 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Gary, 

If you want to live in the bubble for a few more hours, try 

https://abc.com/watch-live/abc-news

Marcus,  The message I am getting from those folks is something like: "We tried rationality for 50 years and look where it got us;  let's try crazy for 4 more years."

I know two trump supporters quite well.  Mind you, we don't talk politics that much.  Both are owners of small businesses who have led the highly regulated lives that folks must lead if they are going to make money in a politically diverse community.  Both [thought they] saw gains from the Tax Cuts.  I think both think the economic policies have been good for them and they find the crazy stuff kinda fun.  Like a bit of a wild fling.  They certainly don't take those things any more seriously than I took Clinton, with whatsername under the Resolute Desk, while he was negotiating with the Majority Leader.  Tsk Tsk, I say and them move on.  That's what they do, and they cannot under stand why I am scared by Trump, any more than I could understand why they were scared by Obama.  I once called one of my relatives in Texas during the bush/Kerry election, because she had been born in Massachusetts and I thought she could help me understand. "I think that man is dangerous," she said.  I agreed, thinking she was talking about Bush.  "Yes," she went on.  "No telling what he will do if he and the democrats get in."  

Kerry, DANGEROUS?  My god that man was scared of getting tomato sauce on his polo shirt.  But she really was quaking with fear..  Just like I am now. 

The one I really am scared of is McConnell.  Hitler got in because the cartels that dominated German politics thought they could "use" him. Look how that turned out. 

Nick 

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com> > On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] election eve

Yeah, the main take home to me is the same as before:  Almost half the country is batshit crazy.

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com> > On Behalf Of u?l? ???
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:22 AM
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Right. So both the guardian and nyt show called Biden: 227, Trump: 213 with PA(20), NC(15), and GA(16) toward Trump and MI(16), WI(10), NV(6), and AZ(11) toward Biden.

227+16+10+11+6 = 270
213+3+15+20+16 = 267

I don't think there's a reason to be optimistic ... cautiously or not. Regardless of which value the artificially binary outcome lands on, it's the closeness of it that causes the problems.

On 11/4/20 9:08 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Biden has got a 270 vs. 267 last time I checked, assuming he can’t take Pennsylvania.

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