[FRIAM] Uncanny Valley was: Biden beats Trump

Wed Nov 11 10:57:18 EST 2020

How do the names of these threads get changed?

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 8:45 AM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

> Eric/Glen, et alia -
>
> I have my own near stress-narcolepsy around extreme conspiracy theories,
> perhaps for the reason you call out here:  to stretch to identify a
> range of threats and then seem to put all of the energy into normalizing
> them rather than picking the ones you might be able to address or
> ameliorate or deflect or take some kind of action against.   I'm quite
> capable of morbid fascination over extreme cases, as long as I leave
> them out beyond some pale of my own belief.   I'm not against gaming out
> worst-case scenarios on the off chance that I can cache the results for
> a future time when in fact those scenarios start to loom close enough to
> take seriously.
>
> While my lily-white-male privileged ass continues to want to deny that
> the raving egomaniacs we have deferred (conferred) power to (via our
> current aberrant instance of representative democracy) are near some
> verge of throwing off the illusions that they are doing what they do "in
> our name", it is no longer an abstract speculation for me and feels
> *real* enough to me to bring my to the near side of this "uncanny valley".
>
> To be honest, I am more likely "hopping" back and forth between trying
> to think through meaningful responses and trying to find indicators that
> this is all show, that it is all the last throes of a melodramatic
> villain flopping around on stage exhibiting his (their) spiraling
> through the stages of grief.
>
> As a seeming tangent, I just watched a handful of documentary shorts on
> Ernie Chambers from NE who was responsible for the splitting and keeping
> their electoral votes split, but maybe more broadly importantly,
> maintaining a powerful critical perspective on the conditions of African
> Americans in the Industrial Midwest as a 6 term (1971-2009) State
> Senator.   Possibly of interest is that he did all of this openly as an
> Atheist.   His words and actions (especially early in his career)
> carried a clear hopeful ideology about equality tempered by a hard-nosed
> practicality.
>
> zzzZZZZZzzzzz,
>
>  - Steve
>
>
> On 11/11/20 6:47 AM, David Eric Smith wrote:
> > Yes, much agreed Glen.
> >
> > I am getting to the point where something combining tedium and
> stress-narcolepsy puts me to sleep, wading through more newspaper articles
> saying in (performative?) outrage: McConnell has just said this
> self-contradictory and hypocritical thing!  How could he!  How can his
> supporters not recognize this!  etc.
> >
> > Yes.  And Duterte and MBS have just had some more people killed, and
> Putin has poisoned somebody else.  They will cease to do this when they are
> stopped, and not before.  Their followers and collaborators too.  So what’s
> the plan?
> >
> > Will be interesting if trump is firing people at DOD, in the Pentagon,
> etc., because he wants, together with Pompeo and Barr, to try some military
> move against either the US public, or some other country to create some
> leverage situation against the US public.  My mind doesn’t work in a way
> that recognizes what might be appealing to them to try in that arena.
> >
> > Best, so to speak,
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 10, 2020, at 11:07 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yep. The other thread talking about uniting us in the face of
> polarization seem to miss this point. One pundit expressed it well "You
> don't seek unity with your abuser." As Barr and a host of Republicans,
> including McConnell <
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/us/politics/republicans-trump-concede-2020-election.html>,
> continue to hypocritically undermine the electoral process, any attempt to
> "unite" with them is akin to co-dependency with a narcissist spouse.
> >>
> >> *After* the dust settles, Biden has no choice but to wrangle and
> hog-tie the bad faith actors into productive behavior. But until then,
> everyone who continues making unsubstantiated claims of fraud should be
> seen as what they are. Skepticism is a good mistress, but a bad master.
> >>
> >> On 11/9/20 5:09 PM, David Eric Smith wrote:
> >>> Those with access to Georgia TV stations can watch David Perdue and
> Kelly Loeffler make a pack and attack Raffensperger, or whatever his name
> is — the election commissioner — because he ran an actually remarkably
> competent and clean election, rather than stealing it for them.  Pretty
> transparent.
> >>>
> >>> I was impressed and thought he deserved a lot of credit.  Of course
> Stacey Abrams is a hero, but that’s another story.
> >>
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