[FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

Marcus Daniels marcus at snoutfarm.com
Wed Nov 11 14:52:46 EST 2020


Yes, my claim is that the sensor has sensed.   Sure, more intelligence is always good.   Acquire it, act on it, but do it without emotion.

I remember after the first go around on Trump, Van Jones had a series where he went out into Trumpland and interviewed people.   It seemed to me he learned what he already knew.

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M.

I think of empathy as a sensor that makes me more likely to predict the behavior of an antagonist.  Think of martial arts techniques that involve giving your opponent what he wants.  So if your opponent wants to rush forward with a knife, you help him along in that project until he is lying flat on his face on the ground.  All action in conflict is based upon suppositions of what your opponent is up to.  Accurate empathy could be a life-saving technique.

N

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It is.  But in this case, not an acceptable solution.

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M
But isn’t empathy ALSO a tool for arriving at solutions.  I stupulate that it is not the ONLY such tool.
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It gives one the freedom to think outside the box on how to resolve the situation.

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But Marcus,

What does your lack of empathy GET you?

Nick

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Roger writes:

< These people weren't voting for rascism, misogyny, narcissism, authoritarianism, xenophobia, gimp shaming, science denialism, or all that other baggage, they were overlooking it for reasons. >

Many of those that could not work due to COVID restrictions are often in battleground or red states.   That’s the only way I can possibly begin to rationalize the 71 million.  To me, overlooking those things is unacceptable.   It’s not useful to exercise any empathy for them.   They made a deal with the devil.   It should have been a win by 50 million, not 5 million.

Marcus
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