[FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Marcus Daniels marcus at snoutfarm.com
Sun Sep 13 23:23:32 EDT 2020


The large dog park on the bay near where I live brings all kinds of people that have at least one good quality.    Mostly people are accommodating about how dogs behave or misbehave up to some limit.   But there was this guy a couple days ago when it was dark all day from smoke, when almost no one came out of their house, who could make a special effort to bring out his phone to record his lecture of another person about that person’s dog that he claimed was attacking other dogs.  It wasn’t significantly true as far as I could tell as I’d been in the same area for a while.   With all that was wrong -- with the pandemic and the fires everywhere -- this guy could take at least 10 minutes to follow around this guy and make a miserable day even more miserable.   While the lecture was proceeding the `offending’ dogs were coming up to the guy to say hi.   I was hoping they’d jump for his neck.   That I would have not reported on my phone.

Oh, I’m supposed to reflect on the importance of mixing.   Never mind.

From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

My 56 year-old daughter smokes cigarettes.  She is the head Latin teacher at an elite boarding school in upstate New York.  I ask her why she smokes and I point out that most Latin teachers don't.  It may be classist but it seems to me that very few professionals smoke.  She says, "Believe me, I know".  Since most places make you go outside to smoke she meets all the smokers.  So, this unhealthy activity leads to mixing.  Unless she's the only teacher who smokes, which is possible.
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On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 4:14 PM David Eric Smith <desmith at santafe.edu<mailto:desmith at santafe.edu>> wrote:
This idea of places where people of different walks “encounter each other” — or even better have something meaningful to do with each other, has an interesting role at a certain period of social change in Japan.

From a friend and colleague:
https://www.amazon.com/Bonds-Civility-Aesthetic-Political-Structural/dp/0521601150
The author argues that the creation of “publics” was an important social innovation in getting around the codified barriers in an officially feudal society, de facto before it was possible de jure.

Eric




On Sep 13, 2020, at 1:27 PM, <thompnickson2 at gmail.com<mailto:thompnickson2 at gmail.com>> <thompnickson2 at gmail.com<mailto:thompnickson2 at gmail.com>> wrote:

This should do it!

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/michael-j-sandel/the-tyranny-of-merit/<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.kirkusreviews.com%2fbook-reviews%2fmichael-j-sandel%2fthe-tyranny-of-merit%2f&c=E,1,KxR3VUYiFyLi-9EwiZchRYJULv3vw8vndRDcdK-uHjMLLKBRYDsCsP1hohZZXJCvy_3Wg6yv4vV6bk_km46AMUuQUaM_Qj2dG6Q3Q4KJ8BMOPSaB&typo=1>

The thesis is that “meritocracy” is the cause of the fact that the us is now the least socially mobile country among the western democracies.

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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