[FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic

[Marcus Daniels]

Not magic.  We can still reason about what a recursive or even probabilistic recursive function must do.   We can reason about intertwined functions, or, even functions with entangled states if meat bags had such things.   I can imagine implementing an executive process for a robot that would result in something one might call agency.   This all works fine within the bounds of purely deterministic things.   It is just another computer program.

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The magic lies in the interoception, measuring one's self. Surely you'll admit that a recursive function is different, even if only slightly, from a non-recursive function. And if you allow that difference, then you might allow that mixed-[co]domain functions are different from single-[co]domain functions ... maybe we could call them "hyperfunctions" to follow along with EricS' recent use of hypergraphs?

While I can't claim to be able to identify exactly a class of hyperfunctions that constitute a subjective feeling of agency (or an objective coherence that warrants legal/social *blame*), I think that's where the magic lies.

I suppose it's akin to (Edelman &) Tononi's IIT ... where some collections of functions are more interoceptive and mutally intertwined than others. A self-driving Tesla might be more likely to have free will than a CD player.

On 4/2/21 10:39 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> More functions.   Keep turning over the rocks and tell me when you find magic.
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> Evolution gave us our utility function. Natural selection gave it to 
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