[FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic

[Pieter Steenekamp]

uǝlƃ wrote " I'm more focused on the idea that humans might be able to do
things we don't (yet) know how to do in computation"

Let me try and give an example:

Instead of humans, let's use birds. Then I present to you flocking, nobody
knows the algorithm for flocking and we may never know it. Indirectly yes,
by using ABM but there the complexity emerges from running the program, the
human did not program the algorithm for flocking.


On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 17:20, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm more focused on the idea that humans might be able to do things we
> don't (yet) know how to do in computation, which is what the conversation
> is about. The QM-consciousness thing isn't important for that conversation.
> It's trivial for you to lob that criticism. You're not doing any work in
> lobbing it. But go ahead and keep throwing stones. It's a *free* country.
> >8^D
>
> An example I've been struggling with is the tonk connective in logics. It
> seems like nonsense in some contexts, yet survives quite nicely in others.
>
> On 4/5/21 8:12 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > Penrose is just throwing more over the wall.   Go ahead, make the case
> how quantum mechanics results in free will.   Formal systems work fine
> there too.
>
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