[FRIAM] A Theory of (Almost) Everything - IEEE Spectrum

[Pieter Steenekamp]

Yeah, just like we were seriously running out of stuff in 1980
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon%E2%80%93Ehrlich_wager
But of course, it's different this time around

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 19:41, Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nick, I think we have an energy supply problem.  We don't have enough
> stuff left in the ground to dig up to supply our technology much longer at
> a price anyone can afford.  I have a colleague who has calculated that we
> will run out of copper in three years, as just one example.  My
> understanding is that copper wire conducts most of our electricity.
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:17 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Merle, and all,
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>> A naïve question:  Do we have an energy supply problem or do we have an
>> energy distribution problem?   For starters, let there be a solar collector
>> on the roof of every house in santa fe, roughly the area of the roof
>> (roofly the area of the rough?) .  Assuming energy were entirely miscible,
>> what proportion of the total energy needs (except food, of course) of Santa
>> Feans would that generate.  I assume hundreds of percents, right?
>>
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>> N
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>> Nick Thompson
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>> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:51 AM
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>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] A Theory of (Almost) Everything - IEEE Spectrum
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>> Almost, but not quite, Jochen.  He doesn't know about embodied energy.  A
>> motor car has an embodied energy contents of 20 800k kWh, while an electric
>> car's embodied energy amounts to 34 700 kWh.  Perhaps if he knew this he
>> wouldn't be so optimistic.  We are racing toward our doom.
>>
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>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:06 AM Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting IEEE podcast: an interview with Václav Smil, who wrote a
>> book about "Grand Transitions", similar to "The Major Transitions in
>> Evolution" from John Maynard Smith and Eörs Szathmáry
>>
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>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/geek-life/history/a-theory-of-almost-everything
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>> -J.
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