[FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

[Marcus Daniels]

By that definition most of medicine is bullshit.

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/306068036_Psychiatry_as_Bullshit

On 4/29/21 3:21 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> Jon,
> 
> I am sorry I disappointed you.  My understanding of object relations theory is like swiss cheese and I chose not to provide an inadequate response by humming a few bars.  By the way, object-relations theory provides a non-Oedipal alternative to your interpretation as explained by the Wikipedia article.  I became the withholding bad object to you.  I hope you will be able to integrate that with the good object I have been at times.
> 
> Good for Glen.
> 
> I am not a practitioner of psychoanalytic theory but it may not be for you.  As for psychoanalytic /treatment, /see the last paragraph of the Wikipedia article.
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Frank
> 
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 4:09 PM jon zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com <mailto:jonzingale at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Frank,
> 
>     To some extent, your response is indicative of the psychoanalytic
>     ends I criticize, the mommy-daddy-me Oedipal construction. Rather than
>     pick up on the opportunity presented by the conversation to engage in an
>     act of creativity (contributing to a forum), you use your agency to make
>     an authoritative (daddy) appeal to an object away from yourself and your
>     agency (the Wikipedia article). This action strikes me as functionally
>     different than Glen's earlier reference, say. While Glen's appeal acts to
>     ground and facilitate a living discussion, yours aims to end one. I felt
>     that the question I asked was fair, to hum a few bars regarding a
>     connection you are making that perhaps could contribute. If this sort of
>     short-circuiting of concepts and conversation is what I can expect from
>     practitioners of psychoanalytic theory, well, maybe it's not for me.


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