[FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

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Sat Aug 28 10:50:54 EDT 2021


I stand by the flag of Bleeding Heart Liberalism ready to do battle with you guys.  

 

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Nick Thompson

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Eric Charles
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 10:06 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

 

Marcus, 

It does take the "bleeding hearts" some time to get to "othering". That said, it's been a while since this started, and the vast majority I know are there now. 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 4:47 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com <mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com> > wrote:

Nah, it takes the bleeding hearts some time to get to othering.   They need some moral support to do it.

 

From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com> > On Behalf Of Eric Charles
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 12:51 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com <mailto:friam at redfish.com> >
Subject: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

 

We talk politics sometimes and the "liberal paradox" has come up. This seems like a variation on that. I've seen this comic for half a year now, and it bugs me every time. 

 

There is 1) an arrogance to "RIGHT THING", 2) an assumption that anyone acting differently than you cannot have any explanation for their behavior other than selfish idiocy, and 3) a self-centered belief that their behavior is somehow a factor of you, rather than a choice of their own. Even worse than those, 4) there is some fundamental lack of decision-ownership that leads to some insidious places: The assertion that what others are doing leads you to "have to" do something --- HAVE TO --- rather than it being one of many factors that play into your choosing to do it. 

 

I'm vaccinated, and I wear a mask in public, and I dislike everything this comic seems to be standing for. It is anti-liberal. It reveals deeply authoritarian leanings, and a firm dedication to "othering" those around you.  

 



 

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