[FRIAM] Acronyms

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 25 21:28:18 EST 2021


I would not expect the compilers I have used (Algol, Fortran, Java, Lisp
(interpreter), Pascal, C, C++) to produce the same result to the last bit
for (x + 1)^2 and x^2 + 2x + 1.  Would you?

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 7:18 PM jon zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nick ,
>
> Please pardon a second attempt to address your question. Let me grant your
> definition of *rigor* as meaning *that which compiles*. *Clarity*, however,
> I would like to treat differently. What strikes me as a structural
> difference between *rigor* and *clarity* here is that the former (as
> narrowly defined above) depends only on the property of being compilable.
> Something, anything, was stated such that a program can run. The latter, to
> my mind, would require a concept of two programs being equivalent (or at
> least orderable). How else could we claim that one program was stated more
> clearly than another? This equivalence can be shoddy as in an optimizing
> function, ie. modulo some countable things I value, or actual equivalence.
> Many computer languages do not allow for actual functional equivalence in
> this sense, though there are some narrow examples. While you and I, and
> some
> algebraically focused languages, can immediately tell that *adding 1 to x
> and then squaring the result* is the "same thing" as *adding together a
> squared x to two times x and a 1*, many languages would require checking
> every value to determine such an equivalence. In this way, *clarity*
> appears
> to me to require more structure than a notion of *rigor* does. To some
> extent, I wish to reject the programmer/compiler dialectic, as it seems
> that
> it hides more useable observations.
>
>
>
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