[FRIAM] The case for and the case against Covid vaccinations

[Pieter Steenekamp]

Thanks for your opinion Glen.

I would love to talk about censorship, but prefer to do that in a separate
thread. It's my bad, I started to talk about it and it's not central to my
main point, so I'm not pointing fingers.

I am serious about whether to vaccinate or not and for now my ears are all
open for comments on whether to vaccinate or not. Up to now I haven't had
an argument that convinces me to change my mind from my original message.
For information, let me repeat my position:
a) Covid is bad
b) The vaccinations are effective and relatively safe and if there is no
other option then it's better to get vaccinated.
But tis is not the story, the whole story and nothing but the story, let me
continue:
c) There are messages out there that convince me that there are safe, low
cost alternative remedies to being vaccinated that are as effective as
vaccination.
d) Although it's not as bad as the Covid infection itself, the Covid
vaccination is also harmful, and especially scary is the potential long
term serious harmful effects of the vaccination affecting the bone marrow
and ovaries of women and girls. The original link I gave is the long
discussion and was removed (not "censored", thanks Glen), but a clip where
they discuss this specific issue is still, for now, available at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTXY .

For a slightly longer discussion with more details and references, please
refer to the first email in this thread. If there are flaws in my reasoning
I'd really like to hear about it.

Thank you
Pieter



On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 17:54, uǝlƃ ☤>$ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> But that's a bit of a weasel move. By using the phrase "Big Brother",
> which is overwhelmingly often used to refer to government(s), you implied
> the typical USA denotation of "censor", which is limited to government(s).
> Under the USA (and maybe other places), only Big Brother can censor. And
> Google is not Big Brother, even metaphorically, because their "Do no evil"
> mantra is compromised. So Google cannot censor.
>
> But if you hadn't used "Big Brother", then your argument would be
> connotatively reasonable in the USA and denotatively reasonable in other
> jurisdictions.
>
>
> On 6/18/21 8:26 AM, Pieter Steenekamp wrote:
> > Agreed, Google is a company, not a government and I support that they
> should have the legal right to censor you.
> >
> > On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 17:00, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com
> <mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Google is a company, not a government.____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com <mailto:
> friam-bounces at redfish.com>> *On Behalf Of *Pieter Steenekamp
> >     *Sent:* Friday, June 18, 2021 5:15 AM
> >     *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com <mailto:friam at redfish.com>>
> >     *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The case for and the case against Covid
> vaccinations____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     Sorry people, the video I have referred to in the first post has
> been censored, so you can't see it. Big Brother has spoken.
> >      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_NNTVJzqtY <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_NNTVJzqtY> ____
>
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