[FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

[Pieter Steenekamp]

@ Glen, Thanks but no thanks. I'm just not interested in Ben Shapiro and
not going to waste my time researching him or even discussing him further.
So from my side about Ben Shapiro, I'm outa here and I'm not going to make
anymore comments on Ben.

My interest when I started the thread was in UBI and I used the video clip
where, IMHO, Andrew Yang gave very good arguments for UBI. If you want to,
in a different thread, discuss Andrew Yang, I will certainly participate. I
have many good things to say about Andrew Yang.

On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 17:07, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I understand you might feel that way. But this is part of the shtick.
> It's a rhetorical tactic that very smart trolls hone and use well. To get a
> better understanding of who you're listening to (one of the Five W's), this
> article lays it out well:
>
> https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/how-hollywood-invented-ben-shapiro
>
> I also understand the typical reaction to apparent ad hominem. But, as
> I've argued on this list before, most accusations of ad hominem are,
> themselves, the fallacy fallacy. It may seem like I'm attacking the man,
> Ben Shapiro. But I'm not. I'm attacking the *brand*, the troll persona he
> and his agent have worked so hard to cultivate in order to colonize your
> mind. Ben Shapiro is not Ben Shapiro.
>
>
>
> On 5/4/21 7:52 AM, Pieter Steenekamp wrote:
> > @Glen, re your /"Ben Shapiro is a troll whose shtick is suckering people
> into "debates" just so he can get air time for his ideology." /
> > /
> > /
> > I'm not knowledgeable about Ben Shapiro, what you say could be true
> about him in general, I just would not know.
> >
> > Did you listen to the video clip before making the comments about Ben
> Shapiro?
> >
> > After reading your comment I listened to the video clip again and Ben
> asked very good questions and gave the mic to Andrew Young and allowed
> Andrew to speak without interrupting or even disagreeing with him. Ben
> asked questions, listened to the answers and moved on and asked more
> questions. This video clip certainly does not support the view you
> expressed about Ben Shapiro.
> >
> > You're welcome to do whatever you like, I'm not criticizing you, but
> personally I like to listen to the arguments of a wide range of different
> people and refrain as much as possible from hanging labels around peoples
> necks and attacking the man and not the argument.
>
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> ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ
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