[FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

[thompnickson2 at gmail.com]

Yes, of course, and, thank you.  I wait with 'bated breath.  

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Nick Thompson
ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ???
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

Not hearing back is not the equivalent of being ignored. I got as far as the 1st few paragraphs, then checking Pavlovic's credentials. I decided I'd read it. Then completely forgot about it. We have to check our American tendencies. "I want it all! I want it NOW!" 8^D I'll respond after I've read it, *if* and only if I have something that might be interesting to say.

On 5/6/21 10:32 AM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> Dear Phellow Phriammers,
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> I have noted that most of what I have written here of late has been 
> ignored, and that’s ok, actually.  Usually, it is the possibility that you MIGHT read what I write that keeps me writing and, behaviorist to the last, writing is what I need to do in order to think.
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> But this situation is different.  I really don’t know what to think about Pavlovic’s <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Dragan-Pavlovic-4> paper.  There may have been some trouble with the cloud version, so I have attached it to this message.
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> So, this is a case where I really need some help.  I realize that you 
> are all engaged in this excellent correspondence about UBI, which has revealed all sorts of “-ists” that I never thought were alive and well in the world, let alone in this group.  I would not interfere with that for a second.  But, could a few of you take a look at his paper <https://1drv.ms/w/s!AptIKbsAd7gjllccpq9yXXQ4hb2N?e=HCzjaV>  (very short, a commentary, actually).  I think he is actually a candidate for this group.  He is an MD, Phd, anaesthesiologist, retired in Paris, who has participated in hundreds of scientific papers,  who is passionate ( I worry, perhaps sometimes a bit too passionate) about dozens of different things and suspicious of everything. He wants, for instance, to dig a gigantic tunnel to bring large ships directly from the danube to the Mediterranean.
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> I, of course, live in a bubble, but I don’t like to have that fact 
> thrust in my face as powerfully as when he reveals to me that the two HAAA=VUD papers denouncing Chloquoroquine were retracted a year ago, and I never found out.  I can’t get any sense of whether there has been any attempt to revive them or to redo the original clinical study that suggested HCQ’s efficacy against CoVid.
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> Any little bit of help you could give me would be great.
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> Nick
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> Nick Thompson
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> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com <mailto:ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com>
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> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ 
> <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/>
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> *From:* thompnickson2 at gmail.com <thompnickson2 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:48 PM
> *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' 
> <friam at redfish.com>
> *Cc:* 'Prof David West' <profwest at fastmail.fm>
> *Subject:* Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc
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> Dear Colleagues,
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> I attach a paper 
> <https://1drv.ms/w/s!AptIKbsAd7gjllccpq9yXXQ4hb2N?e=HCzjaV> written by an internet acquaintance I made some years back, Dragan Pavlovic.  I am sending it along for two reasons.  First, it reveals (to me, at least) that the two negative studies on Hydroxychloroquine use in SARS-CoVid-19 treatment were based on unverified data and were withdrawn by their authors almost immediately.  (Have the rest of you known this for the last year and not told me?  I cannot believe, after we pilloried poor Dave for advocating for it, that he has not gloated about it. ) Second, Pavlovic raises the intension/extension distinction in the context of the interpretation of scientific results and also questions Randomized Control Trials as the "Gold Standard" for discovery. Thus, I think he is a kindred spirit, being a bit of a grumpy contrarian like many of us here.  I have promised to forward any comments you make to him, so be polite but speak truth.


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