[FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Tue May 25 15:44:46 EDT 2021


Very impressive, Stephen.

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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Tue, May 25, 2021, 12:23 PM Stephen Guerin <stephen.guerin at simtable.com>
wrote:

>  I don't think drones aren't an efficient choice for detection. Stationary
> PTZ cameras on ridgetops and citizen phone camera reporting along with 911
> calls are soon enough. Where drones are valuable preliminary mapping to
> fill in gaps of existing camera viewsheds to get an early sizeup.
>
> We are working with www.alertwildfire.org to calibrate their 1000 cameras
> on the ridgetops in the 5 western states of CA, OR, WA, ID and NV. Our bit
> is solving for camera pose based on observations of stars to solve for the
> 9 degrees of freedom of a camera (x, y, z, yaw, pitch, roll, horiz field of
> view, vert field of view and lens distortion)
>
> You can see a map of the cameras that we have robotic control of hear with
> historical imagery:
>
> http://www.alertwildfire.org/tahoe/index.html?camera=Axis-SodaRidge1&v=7a7f1c3
>
> Once a camera is calibrated each pixel maps to a lat/long if it intersects
> the terrain or triangulating 3D points with multiple cameras for sky-based
> features.
>
> You can see how we detect locations of fire starts after lightning strikes
> on the LNU Complex last summer in Sonama here:
>     https://youtu.be/oVAwvs4k1n0
>
> All compute and modeling/sim is in the browser with the camera projections
> using WebGL and rendering to 3D terrain.
>
> And how we track perimeters on this example Adams Fire here:
>     https://youtu.be/lP7-UhZQ4IY
>
> And here is some live AI looking for smoke in Sonoma that we then map:
>    https://fire.aiir.ai/sonoma
>
> We can also calibrate ad hoc imagery coming from citizens based on common
> features in already calibrated images or by geopoints or the stars. Here's
> an example on the Maria Fire where we took imagery from Twitter from a
> private pilot and a second imager from citizen near the freeway.
>    https://youtu.be/aJpgDzFhXng
>
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>
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:54 AM Pieter Steenekamp <
> pieters at randcontrols.co.za> wrote:
>
>> from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology
>>
>> *Synthetic biology* (*SynBio*) is a multidisciplinary area of research
>> that seeks to create new biological parts, devices, and systems, or to
>> redesign systems that are already found in nature.
>>
>> It is a branch of science that encompasses a broad range of methodologies
>> from various disciplines, such as biotechnology
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biotechnology>, genetic engineering
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering>, molecular biology
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_biology>, molecular engineering
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_engineering>, systems biology
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_biology>, membrane science
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_lipid_bilayer>, biophysics
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophysics>, chemical and biological
>> engineering <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_engineering>, electrical
>> and computer engineering
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_engineering>, control
>> engineering <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_engineering> and evolutionary
>> biology <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_biology>.
>>
>> Due to more powerful genetic engineering
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering> capabilities and
>> decreased DNA synthesis and sequencing costs
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing>, the field of synthetic
>> biology is rapidly growing. In 2016, more than 350 companies across 40
>> countries were actively engaged in synthetic biology applications; all
>> these companies had an estimated net worth of $3.9 billion in the global
>> market.[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology#cite_note-1>
>>
>> On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 19:49, Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Marcus, I don't understand your term "synthetic biology."
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:24 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So we move from chemical engineering to synthetic biology.   There will
>>>> always be mistakes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:05 AM
>>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>>>> friam at redfish.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marcus, we've been "experimenting" with our terrestrial biome for at
>>>> least 10-12,000 years (when the first spade hit the ground).  The time for
>>>> more experiments is over....unless they are experiments that help us
>>>> understand even more deeply how to restore the Mycelium networks so that
>>>> the fungi can solve our climate change challenge.  This is perhaps the most
>>>> important task that will save us from extinction.  See Merlin Sheldrake's
>>>> book, "Entangled Life" for explanation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 8:41 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We won’t realize anything unless the experiments happen.   We may not
>>>> learn from experiments, but that is a different issue than the need for the
>>>> experiments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:46 AM
>>>> *To:* friam at redfish.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My father dedicated his life to "forest management" as a professional
>>>> forester, trained in biology and range/timber management.   He retired
>>>> "early" after 30 years somewhat in disgust over the changing of aesthetics
>>>> and perspectives of the United States Forest Service.   He was dedicated
>>>> and loyal to the spirit of Aldo Leopold and other early conservationists.
>>>> He spent multiple multi-week segments every summer leading (most Zuni and
>>>> Hopi native) fire-crews on the West Coast trying ot protec homes and
>>>> "valuable timber". We lived on the edge of the first Wilderness (Gila)
>>>> created (at the behest of Aldo Leopold) for 2/3 of my growing up years.
>>>> My father died 10 years ago (Alzheimers), was cremated, and we (illegall)
>>>> spread his cremains in the heart of the Gila with a minor amount of guilt
>>>> as he was a (nearly) strict rule follower (yet asked for this).   Within
>>>> the year, a serious wildfire complex converged at almost the exact spot we
>>>> scattered him (woooOoooooo!).
>>>>
>>>> Even my Trump-voting (2016) sister and husband are now acknowledging
>>>> that his life/profession were dedicated to a project that was fundamentally
>>>> "unwise".    They *were* (for the most part) doing the best they knew how.
>>>> Most everything they did (from stopping wildfires at the first opportunity)
>>>> to running dual bulldozers across landscapes with a chain between them to
>>>> clear the juniper trees from a landscape to allow more grass (for cattle)
>>>> to grow was "well intended", but it was *range* and *timber* management not
>>>> "grassland" and "forest" management as they called it.  The goal was to
>>>> maximize the "productivity" of the public lands under their management
>>>> (dept of Agriculture_.   The Bureau of Land Management (BLM dept of
>>>> Interior) was know to be *worse* in the sense that their rules on cattle
>>>> and mining were much less careful of protecting the landscape and biome.
>>>> The National Parks were derided by both the Forest Service and the BLM for
>>>> being "much too restrictive" (no "harvesting of resources"!!!!)
>>>>
>>>> And yet NOW we realize how "unwise" all of that was.   But in the same
>>>> breath we suggest that all of our exploitative depradations of the planet's
>>>> "resources" are necessary and possibly "a really good thing"...  and I am
>>>> sure that in another 20 or 50 years we will be lamenting *all* of the
>>>> things that today we are promoting wholeheartedly in the name of
>>>> "progress".
>>>>
>>>> This is part of how I became a neo-Luddite.
>>>>
>>>> - Steve
>>>>
>>>> On 5/25/21 2:50 AM, Pieter Steenekamp wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Let's hope they are a bit more wise in managing the wildfires in the
>>>> future than they were in the 20th century.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/14/california-fire-suppression-forests-tinderbox
>>>>
>>>> Before this unprecedented era of mega-blazes on the US west coast,
>>>> California’s forests had a canny, ingenious way of avoiding destructive
>>>> worst-case forest fire scenarios. By periodically removing the grasses,
>>>> shrubs and young trees – known as the forest understory – California
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/california> avoided fires growing
>>>> to destructive intensities before the 20th century. The way this was done?
>>>> Fire.
>>>>
>>>> Every five to 15 years, groundfires would burn through the forest,
>>>> killing off the undergrowth on a regular basis, thus removing the material
>>>> that can act as tinder and kindle fires. Such groundfires were sparked by
>>>> lightning or by indigenous people who used sophisticated burning practices
>>>> to facilitate crop growing and hunting. Because the fires occurred
>>>> frequently, the understory rarely had time to build up enough combustible
>>>> material for the fires to reach the canopies of the mature trees – which is
>>>> what causes the large, devastating fires we are seeing now. As a result,
>>>> overstory trees might get wounded by the groundfires, but they would rarely
>>>> get killed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 10:22, Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Due to climate change there will be more and more wildfires in
>>>> California, Arizona and New Mexico in the coming years. Drones could help
>>>> to detect wildfires early.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/sensors/remote-sensing/drones-sensors-wildfire-detection
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -J.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> Center for Emergent Diplomacy
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>>>>
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>>>>
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