[FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

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It raises, I think, the question of whether large diagrams/visualizations like these are *categorically* different from close examination of the "physics" of the system. For the CA, VoC gives you not only the presets for the rule, but the ability to edit the rule. It reminds me of Andy Wuensche's DDLab: http://www.ddlab.com/, except DDLab was inversely oriented.

It all evokes the prior questions like "Are virii alive?" SteveS and I have an ongoing disagreement about the ... hmmmm ... fundamentality of visualization. I think they're tricks ... deceptive trickery to get you to *feel* something ... I suppose a bit like how fake news is designed to tweak your feelings of affinity or hostility more than to give you information. My colleagues are very fond of eye candy. I have to fight about it on a daily basis. Pretty pictures are flat out dangerous ... THE scourge of the simulation world.


On 10/26/21 9:49 AM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> The eye-candy that your link leads to is absolutely stunning.  Every time I see a three D image of a virus or a protein I wonder how on earth in that forest the active site is found.  


On 10/26/21 4:34 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote:
> I also thought VoC might help you bridge to some of Jon's intuitions about DLA:
> 
> https://softologyblog.wordpress.com/category/diffusion-limited-aggregation/


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