[FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

uǝlƃ ☤>$ gepropella at gmail.com
Tue Oct 26 07:34:48 EDT 2021


Ha! Of course. Well, since you don't say what the "error" was, I suppose it's no skin off my nose. Both Windows and NetLogo are abominations. You choose your poison. >8^D If we take your "schooled to write a program yourself" point seriously, VoC would be the clear choice. If, instead, Miles is familiar enough with NetLogo to "write a program himself", then NetLogo is the clear choice. You'll get "errors" no matter which one you choose.

I also thought VoC might help you bridge to some of Jon's intuitions about DLA:

https://softologyblog.wordpress.com/category/diffusion-limited-aggregation/

But the old "I can't get it installed" problem is the very thing "edge computing in the browser" is supposed to solve. So, c'est la vie. 


On 10/25/21 8:05 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> It was quite clear that CHAOS was a much more "powerful" program, but I got an error message when I went to download it, and about that time Steve's message came in.  Miles has some passing familiarity with NetLogo and I don't think we need the power to demonstrate the essential point that a process can be fated to come out in a particular way even tho' none of the participants has any idea of what that fate is.  How Sophocles-esque!  But we do have the "Behe Problem".  How does natural selection select for the genes that make the fate when the fate is a non-linear consequence of the genes.  I suppose somebody has tried to select for different patterns as an outcome in a Net Logo model and see if selection could somehow dig down to the eight "genes" that make up the model.   I used to think I understood how this was possible, but right now it seems like a hot potato again.
> 
> Maybe CHAOS would let me try that experiment.

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