[FRIAM] gen'fur

Thu Sep 9 19:33:25 EDT 2021

Down's babies are adorable.

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 3:32 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> Or they are reprogramming their people to be smarter!
> (Actually, deCODE is owned by Amgen now.)
>
> Selection is already occurring, so it isn't as if this is some sci-fi
> thing.
>
>
> https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/the-last-children-of-down-syndrome/616928/
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> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of David Eric Smith
> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:12 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur
>
> Aha!  This is why Iceland has the highest per-capita fraction of published
> authors in the world.  I had assumed it was the weather….
>
> > On Sep 10, 2021, at 2:17 AM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > That can be screened as well with a large population-wide survey such
> has been done in the UK or Iceland.
> > Of course, it is unlikely that complex behaviors will be governed by
> isolated mutations, so the task is to look for highly predictive motifs
> (e.g. regular expressions).
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$
> > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:12 AM
> > To: friam at redfish.com
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur
> >
> > Ha! Now you're trolling. The answer is: "because the sites that generate
> reading ability (or whatever) *also* generate other 'abilities'", with
> "abilities" in scare quotes because many abilities are considered bad ...
> like the ability of a pimply faced white dude to shoot up a church or blow
> up a federal building.
> >
> > In addition to polyphenism, there's robustness. If more than 1 site
> generates the same functional ability (reading), then do we write them all?
> ... just one of them? ... a probabilistically predictive handful of them?
> >
> > On 9/9/21 10:00 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> >> So find the sites that correspond to reading ability, or whatever, and
> WRITE them.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:51 AM
> >> To: friam at redfish.com
> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur
> >>
> >> I was alerted to this article this morning:
> >>
> >> Can Progressives Be Convinced That Genetics Matters?
> >> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-con
> >> v
> >> inced-that-genetics-matters
> >>
> >> It should delight those amongst us who rant about the "woke". 8^D But
> it dovetails nicely with the fraught concept of equality in the other
> thread.
> >>
> >> Coincidentally, also on 9/6, the BIAPT announced their early career
> prize winner Emily McTernan:
> >> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.associationfo
> >> rpoliticalthought.ac.uk%2fbiapt-2021-early-care&c=E,1,Je9MVNdO8lpJQOd
> >> 6fZwUNe-4z5yuFq0upxNIzMBFjmLFh_h5a63ueVVpd8lkEdWeUx5Xx1RaoPg3T5Ph8YlG
> >> 0558qqHLZD8-DKeBPEC3YYM,&typo=1
> >> er-prize-winner-dr-emily-mcternan/
> >>
> >> "In her forthcoming monograph, Dr McTernan develops her work on social
> equality further, to advance a pioneering conceptual account – and robust
> normative defence – of the phenomenon of ‘taking offence’. Therein,
> McTernan contends, we should understand taking offence, under appropriate
> conditions, as a civic virtue rather than a vice, as an emotion that
> embodies the resistance of social inequalities within a community."
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/8/21 8:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> >>> From about a cancer rate of 10% (without mutation) to 50% (with) but
> it depends on the BRCA variant.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_ca
> >>> n
> >>> c
> >>> er.htm
> >>> <https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_c
> >>> a
> >>> n
> >>> cer.htm>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sep 8, 2021, at 4:07 PM, Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> >>>> Is the Braca gene that little correlated with breast cancer?
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Frank C. Wimberly
> >>>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> >>>> Santa Fe, NM 87505
> >>>>
> >>>> 505 670-9918
> >>>> Santa Fe, NM
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 4:57 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com
> <mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>    Yeah, it is hard to get excited about “unusual” variance. Modern
> >>>> classification algorithms like gradient boosting make it possible
> >>>> to predict phenotypes, and to me that is a lot more interesting
> >>>> (and still possible to deconstruct).____
> >>>>
> >>>>    __ __
> >>>>
> >>>>    *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com <mailto:
> friam-bounces at redfish.com>> *On Behalf Of *Eric Charles
> >>>>    *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:53 PM
> >>>>    *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com <mailto:friam at redfish.com>>
> >>>>    *Subject:* [FRIAM] gen'fur____
> >>>>
> >>>>    __ __
> >>>>
> >>>>    Gen'fur this, gen'fur that... and also the realities of biological
> complexity....
> >>>>    ____
> >
> >
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