[FRIAM] The Starship and the Canoe

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Sun Aug 7 13:05:21 EDT 2022


Jochen -

Glad you found "Starship", I would have recommended it as "preparation 
reading" to experience the PNW and in particular BC well.  I 
particularly was taken with his experiences in the traditional Baidarka 
he crafted (reverse engineered?) including hitching a ride on a barge of 
cattle being towed to AK by a Colorado Rancher who was already fleeing 
the lower 48 for the relative independence he believed he could find in AK.

I understand George's latest book to have a lot of references to those 
experiences woven into the more technological elements.    I haven't 
read any of it yet, but get the impression that it picks up somewhat 
where his "Darwin Among the Machines" left off.

Merle -

For better or worse, it appears that Nature is reclaiming Glen Canyon 
one way or the other with the droughts...

I have not fully processed it yet, but James Lovelock's recent passing 
at 103 has lead me to revisit my apprehension of "Gaia 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis>" in a way that I was 
unprepared to do when it was first being popularized.  At the time I 
reacted (as many did) more to the popularization style that others added 
to it than perhaps to the fundamentals that he and Margulis brought forward.

In preparation for your (Merle) "summit" in Stockholm in 2019, I 
encountered the "Medea Hypothesis 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medea_hypothesis>" for the first time and 
found them to be an interesting complementary pair of perspectives.

On 8/7/22 9:55 AM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
> One of my favorite books, Jochen.  It was written by Kenneth Brower, 
> David Brower's son. For those of you in a different generation, David 
> was one of the founders of the environmental movement in the 70's and 
> founded many organizations, including Friends of the Earth.  However, 
> he made one fatal mistake in his career. He had the authority to help 
> make the decision to trade Glen Canyon for Dinosaur National Park 
> (never having visited Glen Canyon).  I knew David well, and he never 
> got over what he had done.
>
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 9:16 AM Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
>
>     In a small shop in Tofino on Vancouver Island I spotted a nice
>     book named "The Starship and the Canoe" about George Dyson and his
>     father. Apparently George lived for a long time in a tree house in
>     British Columbia while his father was thinking about building
>     atomic rockets that could reach Mars. Interesting book.
>
>     -J.
>
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