[FRIAM] "tech" companies suck

[Prof David West]

The single most used social media by teens/early adults is Youtu.be 95%. Facebook, in that demographic, is but 32%.

davew


On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, at 9:14 AM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
> Here in Ecuador, group chat is very widespread. Unfortunately (?) it is mostly through informal WhatsApp groups. Email is *so* last millenia, and even FaceBook has mostly given way to Instagram, TikTok, whatever. Yuck. I especially dislike WhatsApp groups because it has even taken over some institutions, such as the foundation that I'm working with. The biggest problems are that the identity of each person is tied to their phone number, and there is no central archive of its content. For the former, if a person loses their phone, they have no way to recover their chat history, and unless person B has person A's information (name, etc.), person B only sees the phone number of person A, hence having no idea who is who until they add all these people to their phone's contact list. For the second, institutions tend to lose their collective memory, unless someone is in the group from start to finish, and somehow maintains an archive of past conversations.
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> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:32 AM Roger Critchlow <rec at elf.org> wrote:
>> I've lately run into two mentions of "group chat" as the organizing principle of social media for the day.  You keep different groups for different purposes, and you don't let social media into the chat.  I think Friam actually functions as a group chat, aside from google scanning everything.  But technically it's a Gen-Z thing, so we obviously don't know what we're doing.
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>> It was a neighbor group chat that busted the Ted Cruz Cancun getaway plan in February 2021, while Texans froze to death or were bankrupted by spikes in electric rates.
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>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:53 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It's an interesting question. Someone posted a poll on a Mastodon server recently, something like "What is it you want from all this stuff? (E.g. Twitter, Facebook, ...)" The possible answers were things like "Friendship", "Connectedness", etc. There was an "Other", which I filled in. I wrote something like: "The state of the world. When I was younger, I read the newspaper and watched the daily news on one of the big 3 networks. Now, it feels like everything's all fractured. TV news is for ancient, out of touch people. The newspaper is neither local, nor does it tell interesting national or international stories. So, I use these media, like 12-20 different outlets just to get some sense of the state of the world."
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>>> I wish I had a better answer to "where do you find this stuff". It can be exhausting trying to stay informed. Fora like FriAM help a bit.
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>>> On 8/13/22 17:57, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > And where do find this stuff glen >_<
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>>> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 2:41 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com <mailto:gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> >     https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zevd/this-is-the-data-facebook-gave-police-to-prosecute-a-teenager-for-abortion <https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zevd/this-is-the-data-facebook-gave-police-to-prosecute-a-teenager-for-abortion>
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