[FRIAM] "tech" companies suck

[Gary Schiltz]

I see that 22 years after Y2K, I've already forgotten how to spell
millennia, and that the singular is millennium. Maybe I need to write a
WhatsApp message to myself as a reminder :-)

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 11:14 AM Gary Schiltz <gary at naturesvisualarts.com>
wrote:

> Here in Ecuador, group chat is very widespread. Unfortunately (?) it is
> mostly through informal WhatsApp groups. Email is *so* last millenia, and
> even FaceBook has mostly given way to Instagram, TikTok, whatever. Yuck. I
> especially dislike WhatsApp groups because it has even taken over some
> institutions, such as the foundation that I'm working with. The biggest
> problems are that the identity of each person is tied to their phone
> number, and there is no central archive of its content. For the former, if
> a person loses their phone, they have no way to recover their chat history,
> and unless person B has person A's information (name, etc.), person B only
> sees the phone number of person A, hence having no idea who is who until
> they add all these people to their phone's contact list. For the second,
> institutions tend to lose their collective memory, unless someone is in the
> group from start to finish, and somehow maintains an archive of past
> conversations.
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:32 AM Roger Critchlow <rec at elf.org> wrote:
>
>> I've lately run into two mentions of "group chat" as the organizing
>> principle of social media for the day.  You keep different groups for
>> different purposes, and you don't let social media into the chat.  I think
>> Friam actually functions as a group chat, aside from google scanning
>> everything.  But technically it's a Gen-Z thing, so we obviously don't know
>> what we're doing.
>>
>> It was a neighbor group chat that busted the Ted Cruz Cancun getaway plan
>> in February 2021, while Texans froze to death or were bankrupted by spikes
>> in electric rates.
>>
>> -- rec --
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:53 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's an interesting question. Someone posted a poll on a Mastodon server
>>> recently, something like "What is it you want from all this stuff? (E.g.
>>> Twitter, Facebook, ...)" The possible answers were things like
>>> "Friendship", "Connectedness", etc. There was an "Other", which I filled
>>> in. I wrote something like: "The state of the world. When I was younger, I
>>> read the newspaper and watched the daily news on one of the big 3 networks.
>>> Now, it feels like everything's all fractured. TV news is for ancient, out
>>> of touch people. The newspaper is neither local, nor does it tell
>>> interesting national or international stories. So, I use these media, like
>>> 12-20 different outlets just to get some sense of the state of the world."
>>>
>>> I wish I had a better answer to "where do you find this stuff". It can
>>> be exhausting trying to stay informed. Fora like FriAM help a bit.
>>>
>>> On 8/13/22 17:57, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>>> >
>>> > And where do find this stuff glen >_<
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 2:41 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com <mailto:
>>> gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     __
>>> >
>>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zevd/this-is-the-data-facebook-gave-police-to-prosecute-a-teenager-for-abortion
>>> <
>>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zevd/this-is-the-data-facebook-gave-police-to-prosecute-a-teenager-for-abortion
>>> >
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