[FRIAM] dystopian vision(s)

[glen]

No, as I understand it, HIPAA would *not* be violated. That's a common (right wing) trope. HIPAA only applies to licensed medical professionals who disclose their *patients'* data or gain inappropriate access to other provider's patients' data. But if you don't have a license, then you can't violate HIPAA.

A non-licensed hacker busting into some electronic health records DB would not be a HIPAA violation, at least not for the hacker. A social engineering hack, where some pharmacist or whatever clicked on a phishing link and that resulted in the hacker getting access ... well, perhaps the pharmacist could be accused of a HIPAA violation. But the hacker is still just an ordinary cyber criminal.

I still worry that spying on and disclosing (semi) private data about elected officials might be a crime of some kind. But you're the PI. So you'd know!

On 8/19/22 12:25, Steve Smith wrote:
> GEPR -
>> This sounds like a fantastic project for a public OSINT challenge. You *know* all those codgers have terrible OpSec, probably order their drugs through the USPS or worse, have their underpaid, over-abused admin assistants pick 'em up at the drive through window of the pharmacy. A good camera and a parabolic mic and Bob's your uncle. >8^D
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>> It's probably a crime, though.
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> yah... busting into their records would be... HPPA and all that (which I support).
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> Your version (distance scrutiny of public behaviour/sigInt) would not be (on the surface anyway).   Like Jack Sweeney's Billionaire-Jet-Tracking efforts.  Sometimes this kind of work <https://www.amazon.com/Trevor-Paglen-Unseen-John-Jacob/dp/1911282336/ref=pd_bxgy_sccl_2/147-8329599-4719344?pd_rd_w=x3mIb&content-id=amzn1.sym.7757a8b5-874e-4a67-9d85-54ed32f01737&pf_rd_p=7757a8b5-874e-4a67-9d85-54ed32f01737&pf_rd_r=9R7EAMZEBWZ0R3F49MCB&pd_rd_wg=IJDl5&pd_rd_r=28b14ca2-d8a3-4908-b468-520b2a8d0114&pd_rd_i=1911282336&psc=1> verges on (performance?) Art...
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> I personally would not want to see *anyone* busted for their chemical (or other technological) augmentation in any harsh way, but I would not mind seeing it included in a low-level pressure campaign to shift the average elected office encumbent age downward.   I'm happy if Bernie Sanders was juicing a little for the last Senate all-nighter (tactically) but not so happy that such things may have become standard practice (like steroids Mr. Universe and WWF but not in Olympic Weight LIfting and Chess-Boxing).  JFK, FDR and who knows how many (other) TLA-presidents had their own personal physician juicing them for things the public was unaware of...   performance enhancing or remedial, what is the line?
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