[FRIAM] The Insurrection Index

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Wed Jan 5 17:10:35 EST 2022


it would also be interesting to throw some driving-distance rings aroudn 
all that.   I think the high (relative) participation of KY, VA, PA 
might  explain some of that.   MTs high participation might reflect 
something about variances and low denominators... if like 3 people 
jumped in the front of their pickup and drove to DC from MT, that alone 
might have skewed it all.

I found myself hovering the original map for "elected" and "running for 
office" individuals because they have an implied leverage that the 
average yahoo doesn't.  Either by being IN office or by being in front 
of beaucoup media to rattle on about their favorite boogieman in front 
of a camera and/or microphone.

On 1/5/22 2:58 PM, cody dooderson wrote:
> Barry also made me wonder whether their map was just a population map 
> in disguise.
> I put the data into a google sheet and came up with another map; this 
> one is scaled by the population of each state. Indeed I think that the 
> original was misleading. Not surprisingly, this map actually 
> highlights the states nearer to the DC area.
> The numbers of participants are very small compared to the population 
> of each state. Does anyone know if there is a significance test that 
> would work for this data, as I don't remember much from statistics 
> class? Here is a link to the spreadsheet 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gmYUaCkj7FxB-vMdC-euM5VDVf6y_DHIQmqW35mjTHk/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
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> Cody Smith
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 12:31 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Yeah, while I disagree with the minor point Barry makes about the
>     coloring (e.g. CA is darker but with larger pop than TX, same re
>     NY and PA), the visualization isn't the point. The point is a
>     database GUI so you can hover and see the vector of numbers, click
>     to see the names, etc.
>
>     As for putting them down hard, I tend to think the death by 1000
>     cuts is more effective. The actual penalty isn't really the
>     deterrent. The deterrent is being "in the System" ... having the
>     bureaucracy keep an eye on you. Look at the many people whose
>     outlook has deteriorated simply from The System Gaze. When
>     Rittenhouse was acquitted, it reminded me of Zimmermann
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman>, child
>     movie/music stars, and cancelled professors/pundits. Unless you've
>     got a really solid support system, that focused attention will be
>     excruciating. You'll learn to punch the paparazzi in the face and
>     hermit yourself away quickly ... or die from a drug overdose
>     eventually.
>
>     Swift punishment is supposed to be a citizen right. But if The
>     System Gazes at you, that's the real punishment. Plus, many people
>     have short attention spans. So if you put some down hard, you'll
>     radicalize some onlookers. But if you put them down over, say, 10
>     years, the onlookers get bored or distracted.
>
>
>     On 1/5/22 10:58, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>     > I suppose it depends on the question.  Is the question where to
>     place resources to tip the balance of power, esp. for the senate? 
>      It's starting to feel like COVID.   They are around,
>     everywhere...  I kind of wonder what would happen if there were a
>     second Jan 6th where they were put down hard. Would it change
>     anything if they were dead in front of the capitol and it was on
>     Fox News?
>     >
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     > *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Barry
>     MacKichan <barry.mackichan at mackichan.com>
>     > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 5, 2022 11:49 AM
>     > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>     <friam at redfish.com>
>     > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The Insurrection Index
>     >
>     > This map, like many others, is pretty much a map showing the
>     population of each state. Using color to give
>     #insurrectionists/population would be better, but even this still
>     improperly gives relative importance to the states with large areas.
>     >
>     > Dave named the two states that are formerly independent. For
>     completeness I’ll add West Virginia which seceded from Virginia
>     when Virginiu seceded from the US. (I think some counties in east
>     Tennessee also seceded, but weren’t enough to make a state and
>     weren’t contiguous with the US.
>     >
>     > —Barry
>     >
>     > On 5 Jan 2022, at 10:19, glen wrote:
>     >
>     > https://insurrectionindex.org/ <https://insurrectionindex.org/>
>     >
>     >     It's interesting how bright Texas and Florida are. Maybe I
>     should move to Vermont next. 8^D
>     >
>     >     --
>     >     glen
>     >     Theorem 3. There exists a double master function.
>
>     -- 
>     glen
>     Theorem 3. There exists a double master function.
>
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