[FRIAM] The Insurrection Index

[Marcus Daniels]

Glen writes:

< The actual penalty isn't really the deterrent. The deterrent is being "in the System" ... having the bureaucracy keep an eye on you. Look at the many people whose outlook has deteriorated simply from The System Gaze. >

And yet essentially the entire Republican party has been taken over by people tolerant of these nuts.  If they become the System, then the Gaze changes (subject to limitations in attention span).   I agree the bureaucracy and the rejection by the lefty meanies and "manager class" seems to get to them, but there also appears to a real fear of the deep state.    Sometimes I wish this imaginary deep state would swallow some of them up just to promote a sense of paranoia and powerlessness.    It's not like they are after​ democracy, so they shouldn't be upset or surprised if it the machinery turns against them.

Marcus
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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of glen <gepropella at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 12:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Insurrection Index

Yeah, while I disagree with the minor point Barry makes about the coloring (e.g. CA is darker but with larger pop than TX, same re NY and PA), the visualization isn't the point. The point is a database GUI so you can hover and see the vector of numbers, click to see the names, etc.

As for putting them down hard, I tend to think the death by 1000 cuts is more effective. The actual penalty isn't really the deterrent. The deterrent is being "in the System" ... having the bureaucracy keep an eye on you. Look at the many people whose outlook has deteriorated simply from The System Gaze. When Rittenhouse was acquitted, it reminded me of Zimmermann <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman>, child movie/music stars, and cancelled professors/pundits. Unless you've got a really solid support system, that focused attention will be excruciating. You'll learn to punch the paparazzi in the face and hermit yourself away quickly ... or die from a drug overdose eventually.

Swift punishment is supposed to be a citizen right. But if The System Gazes at you, that's the real punishment. Plus, many people have short attention spans. So if you put some down hard, you'll radicalize some onlookers. But if you put them down over, say, 10 years, the onlookers get bored or distracted.


On 1/5/22 10:58, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> I suppose it depends on the question.  Is the question where to place resources to tip the balance of power, esp. for the senate?   It's starting to feel like COVID.   They are around, everywhere...  I kind of wonder what would happen if there were a second Jan 6th where they were put down hard.  Would it change anything if they were dead in front of the capitol and it was on Fox News?
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Barry MacKichan <barry.mackichan at mackichan.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 5, 2022 11:49 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The Insurrection Index
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> This map, like many others, is pretty much a map showing the population of each state. Using color to give #insurrectionists/population would be better, but even this still improperly gives relative importance to the states with large areas.
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> Dave named the two states that are formerly independent. For completeness I’ll add West Virginia which seceded from Virginia when Virginiu seceded from the US. (I think some counties in east Tennessee also seceded, but weren’t enough to make a state and weren’t contiguous with the US.
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> —Barry
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> On 5 Jan 2022, at 10:19, glen wrote:
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>     https://insurrectionindex.org/ <https://insurrectionindex.org/>
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>     It's interesting how bright Texas and Florida are. Maybe I should move to Vermont next. 8^D
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>     --
>     glen
>     Theorem 3. There exists a double master function.

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glen
Theorem 3. There exists a double master function.

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