[FRIAM] Yeeah Coin Miners made it hard to get parts

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Sat Jan 22 12:21:13 EST 2022


Welcome to the Singularity!


How do we even measure the derivatives of the change in 
multiple/compounded domains (like computational 
hardware/software/applications crossed with terrestrial/air/space 
transportation which can be decomposed into yet other critical 
technologies (power management, sensors, navigation, control systems)?


The current impact of "supply chain failures" seems to open the door to 
another layer of logistics ML/AI which seems like a critical stepwise 
move toward global scale AI that transcends any human/corporate/national 
oversight and takes on a "life of it's own".


I haven't tracked Musk's analysis/critique of AI lately but as the 
biggest target (squashable bug) for a global-scale emergent AI, he would 
seem to be an obvious individual human/company victim of an AI 
"leveraging" him out of the picture or into the biggest tool in the 
box?  By some measure it seems he already is?  I can't tell if his ego 
allows him to recognize this or if it requires it of him?   Trying to 
squirt himself across space to Mars before it catches up with him?  How 
DO you close that door behind you well enough to keep HAL from following 
you (stowaway)?


I think plenty of people (e.g. Gil's Gamers, MAGA-heads, the non/working 
poor, Millenials, etc) are already being ground up by "the system" which 
is just getting bigger/faster/smarter.   I don't mean to project 
consciousness onto this amoeba-like emergent Leviathan (Hobbes), just a 
higher-order of organization as alluded to in the OOE/ALife work like this:

Cultural Evolution and OOE 
<https://openended.protolife.org/t/evolved-open-endedness-in-cultural-evolution/1422>

OOE <https://openended.protolife.org/>

Designing Computational Substrates using Open-Ended Evolution 
<https://watermark.silverchair.com/isal_a_00294.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAs0wggLJBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggK6MIICtgIBADCCAq8GCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMXbd_0vI3nAzg9Tp-AgEQgIICgPPbNYo3j8us8tRa1uhLime9JEAh0_FdLiu_jgdernc7Phy1d93OmrA2MQBd1eDcP_HEI5rbhnaaY2eUDWoWsQJAVnT6vNL6GNzE3DZc8PmI0w2a4teNYxuWJhzf1Rid_FwKS-jyeGgYiMcVqhaaEUuN5vhAgH4LwXIBqhwOVNDYmSm3lYZW9eQYQ8wwGGdGB8vCxUCyBFPbralxNFBrqn6JAhkYp8HPfAF01r93Utznf5Xd2RHG5dSpKyRtaVFk-00zHIEEjbNu0DkZVBdLCx-xHpy7Dfywa7kKbB2YurtmwRfghu-eJPo_efWcIULbU7p9UQ4lOJypjzenJ4s-meCXS-SKV1zsoeiLEWpaQKr4BJWt2xhA0YLyh-oOhsq8QpQfZgXrOrTHAnbPjzFJRZZcOI-JZPQBVRr2fNMsyL5Lgo6_9VeA7QEXncfs8WnlqBOgTFM5nxwKdSJaKMB23oBCwcI4aCSE47oWxTmfmKDFpNQdvUPVuylumn8KOsuz4qHS8Yq89atYDBreYQaaEgJ6yIQteseEA4wdt7qehwfPpZi2cm18-nzngQDX8tdk0UQRKM6g0pJfx0Cgmq95Clqe8Fekd1QM4BUA1mJH-ZAQVCDascV294nTLIrXjaD-ZjeucmMSrVPsDnZdE0-Oa2nwRRASWO7s7xlX7HEqdZYRmb7NYvEh0Y71vO2HcgFEhOi-8w8l-kJIqzzzNu6vzDHShU6cYU4opilGsbKJjrqrNjE8ZWzoudu957bEuthyKDvGQ9ZGt_pUd2phCQXXKZrvmccyWdNo1W9OOl9iRkkZMu0TsmQaCxU1Iw6K5ElDYWzKbzb0mJ9y3ZtCfExgbKY>


I think all of this entertwines/weaves with a couple of our other 
threads here... I can barely keep up with reading (often skimming) most 
of them, much less having deeper thoughts about them much less doing 
significant analysis (re EricS acknowledgement) of any of it.


On 1/21/22 9:56 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> It is unbelievable to me the resources Tesla is expending on machine 
> learning and automatic driving.    They've transcended GPUs (12,000 
> wasn't enough) and are designing their own chips for custom 
> supercomputers now.
>
> https://youtu.be/j0z4FweCy4M?t=6324
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Gillian 
> Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 21, 2022 8:35 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
> <friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* [FRIAM] Yeeah Coin Miners made it hard to get parts
> https://www.windowscentral.com/roughly-25-graphics-cards-went-crypto-miners-and-speculators-first-quarter-2021-according-report
>
> TLDR: GPU's get used in a lot of places. I didn't know tesla used them 
> for tensor processing. Or they needed tensor flow processing at all. 
> Would that be for the self driving mode? Anyway: a big kvech in gaming 
> cercles: no parts to get even /needed /part replacements since a lot 
> is in the hands of crypto minners, or just available. I'll give this a 
> bit of a bullwhip rating.
>
> https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/06/19/crypto-miners-are-probably-to-blame-for-the-graphics-chip-shortage 
>
> as well
>
>
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