[FRIAM] health care logistics

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 25 09:22:41 EST 2022


But

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide_in_China#20th_century

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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 7:16 AM Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave is right.  Development experts have known for a long time that when
> girls get educated and women hold jobs outside the home they are much more
> likely to control childbearing.  However, the culture must change
> everywhere, and it happens quite slowly with lots of pushback.  Check out
> the new protest and direct action movement that's happening with young men
> demonstrating in the streets in S. Korea.  ("A Vicious Anti-Feminist
> Backlash Stuns South Korea", Globe And Mail, 1/22.)
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 12:40 AM Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
>
>> It has been known for a long time that the most effective means of birth
>> / population control was educating girls, followed closely by empowering
>> girls, e.g., with micro-loans to start businesses. I remember studying this
>> topic way back in the 80s in my anthropology graduate program.
>>
>> davew
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>>
>> Merle wrote:
>>
>> < China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are
>> more urban educated workers, especially women. >
>>
>> Estimate in Hawken's book was the 6th largest potential reduction for CO2
>> drawdown came from educating girls.  His reference was:
>>
>> https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1206964
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff <
>> merlelefkoff at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2022 9:40 PM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> friam at redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics
>>
>> China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are more
>> urban educated workers, especially women.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:11 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Excellent, Marcus.
>>
>> Eric, if it's less than 90% it still would have be significant.  Two
>> problems, "God" has tricks for making babies.  As for 1 child per couple
>> didn't they "terminate" some babies (not fetuses, feti?), particularly
>> females?  My impression is that their population has grown substantially
>> notwithstanding those policies.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
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>> Frank C. Wimberly
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>>
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>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 6:38 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Before I launch into a diatribe about why the hell we can't agree to
>> basic, never mind interesting things:   I'd just like to report that the
>> James Webb telescope is in L2 orbit.  Score one for the negotiating,
>> patient, subtlety-appreciating scientists and their counterparts in
>> government.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of David Eric Smith <
>> desmith at santafe.edu>
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2022 6:01 PM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> friam at redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics
>>
>> You know, as I read your characterization, Marcus, it took me back to
>> Hannah Arendt’s description of feudal Europe and the role of the
>> Rothschilds and other big Jewish quasi-stateless fixer families in relation
>> to the feudal lords.  Fussy and indirect seems somehow very close to the
>> right picture of the stateless ones navigating always through the cracks
>> and seams, compared to the blunt moves of the ones who had states.
>>
>> I have some discomfort that this doesn’t quite map.  Yet it seems not
>> fully dissimilar.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>>
>> SFI sponsorship seems like very much a fideistic declaration.   It would
>> be interesting to see how that influence network feeds into a D.C.
>> influencer network and real money.   There are some linkages, like
>> Brookings, but leverage-wise it all seems much softer than with LANL and
>> the DOE.   And it all seems so fussy and indirect compared to slapping down
>> a few billion dollars to build a Starship.  That's the appeal of Musk:  I'm
>> f'ing doing this.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of glen <
>> gepropella at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2022 5:08 PM
>> *To:* friam at redfish.com <friam at redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics
>>
>> Well, that ain't true, either. Like Epstein, when you "invest" in the SFI
>> or people like Steven Pinker or Bill Clinton, you're simply transferring
>> from one store to another ... buying influence. If, e.g., the CIA contracts
>> with the SFI to adapt a CAS modeling tool into a broad spectrum simulation
>> tool, they are not only buying a (questionable) piece of software; they're
>> buying *leverage* over people's salaries, loyalty, etc. So those VCs *will*
>> see that money again, perhaps much less of it, depending on the efficiency
>> of the transaction, or in fringe storage types (able to get past the
>> receptionist after eating over-priced peri-Mexican food in order to have
>> tea with smart people).
>>
>> On 1/24/22 15:31, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> > Some of them sponsor SFI for goodness' sake!   They'll never see THAT
>> money again!
>> --
>> glen
>> Theorem 3. There exists a double master function.
>>
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