[FRIAM] health care logistics

Tue Jan 25 09:32:30 EST 2022

Yes, they should have drowned the boys.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 7:27 AM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> But
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide_in_China#20th_century
>
> ---
> Frank C. Wimberly
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> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 7:16 AM Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave is right.  Development experts have known for a long time that when
>> girls get educated and women hold jobs outside the home they are much more
>> likely to control childbearing.  However, the culture must change
>> everywhere, and it happens quite slowly with lots of pushback.  Check out
>> the new protest and direct action movement that's happening with young men
>> demonstrating in the streets in S. Korea.  ("A Vicious Anti-Feminist
>> Backlash Stuns South Korea", Globe And Mail, 1/22.)
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 12:40 AM Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It has been known for a long time that the most effective means of birth
>>> / population control was educating girls, followed closely by empowering
>>> girls, e.g., with micro-loans to start businesses. I remember studying this
>>> topic way back in the 80s in my anthropology graduate program.
>>>
>>> davew
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>>>
>>> Merle wrote:
>>>
>>> < China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are
>>> more urban educated workers, especially women. >
>>>
>>> Estimate in Hawken's book was the 6th largest potential reduction for
>>> CO2 drawdown came from educating girls.  His reference was:
>>>
>>> https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1206964
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff <
>>> merlelefkoff at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2022 9:40 PM
>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>>> friam at redfish.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics
>>>
>>> China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are more
>>> urban educated workers, especially women.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:11 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Excellent, Marcus.
>>>
>>> Eric, if it's less than 90% it still would have be significant.  Two
>>> problems, "God" has tricks for making babies.  As for 1 child per couple
>>> didn't they "terminate" some babies (not fetuses, feti?), particularly
>>> females?  My impression is that their population has grown substantially
>>> notwithstanding those policies.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
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>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 6:38 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Before I launch into a diatribe about why the hell we can't agree to
>>> basic, never mind interesting things:   I'd just like to report that the
>>> James Webb telescope is in L2 orbit.  Score one for the negotiating,
>>> patient, subtlety-appreciating scientists and their counterparts in
>>> government.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of David Eric Smith
>>> <desmith at santafe.edu>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2022 6:01 PM
>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>>> friam at redfish.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics
>>>
>>> You know, as I read your characterization, Marcus, it took me back to
>>> Hannah Arendt’s description of feudal Europe and the role of the
>>> Rothschilds and other big Jewish quasi-stateless fixer families in relation
>>> to the feudal lords.  Fussy and indirect seems somehow very close to the
>>> right picture of the stateless ones navigating always through the cracks
>>> and seams, compared to the blunt moves of the ones who had states.
>>>
>>> I have some discomfort that this doesn’t quite map.  Yet it seems not
>>> fully dissimilar.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> SFI sponsorship seems like very much a fideistic declaration.   It would
>>> be interesting to see how that influence network feeds into a D.C.
>>> influencer network and real money.   There are some linkages, like
>>> Brookings, but leverage-wise it all seems much softer than with LANL and
>>> the DOE.   And it all seems so fussy and indirect compared to slapping down
>>> a few billion dollars to build a Starship.  That's the appeal of Musk:  I'm
>>> f'ing doing this.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of glen <
>>> gepropella at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2022 5:08 PM
>>> *To:* friam at redfish.com <friam at redfish.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics
>>>
>>> Well, that ain't true, either. Like Epstein, when you "invest" in the
>>> SFI or people like Steven Pinker or Bill Clinton, you're simply
>>> transferring from one store to another ... buying influence. If, e.g., the
>>> CIA contracts with the SFI to adapt a CAS modeling tool into a broad
>>> spectrum simulation tool, they are not only buying a (questionable) piece
>>> of software; they're buying *leverage* over people's salaries, loyalty,
>>> etc. So those VCs *will* see that money again, perhaps much less of it,
>>> depending on the efficiency of the transaction, or in fringe storage types
>>> (able to get past the receptionist after eating over-priced peri-Mexican
>>> food in order to have tea with smart people).
>>>
>>> On 1/24/22 15:31, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>>> > Some of them sponsor SFI for goodness' sake!   They'll never see THAT
>>> money again!
>>> --
>>> glen
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>> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
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