[FRIAM] Ukraine and NATO

Patrick Reilly patrick.reilly at ipsociety.net
Tue Jan 25 17:39:19 EST 2022


I first note that the US engineered a coup in the Ukraine to eject a
pro-Russian President.

I add that NOT having any former Warsaw Bloc or former Soviet Republic
incorporated as a NATO state was explicitly promised prior to the USSR
peacefully disintegrating.

And how many nations has the US invaded since Gorbachev’s premiership?

—— Par


On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> I think the issue is, like Sweden and Finland, they have the role to
> Russia as buffers to U.S. medium range missiles.
>
> > On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:37 AM, glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Why Ukraine is still not a NATO member: who is to blame and what to do?
> > https://uacrisis.org/en/why-ukraine-is-still-not-in-nato
> >
> > Does anyone here have any better understanding of why Ukraine membership
> is so "toxic"? Is this simply a disagreement between hawks and doves wrt
> Putin's dream of a new USSR? I seem to remember back when Crimea was first
> occupied by Russia that nearly half the people really did identify more as
> Russians than Ukrainians. Ignoring that polls are fraught, is there a sense
> that a significant bloc Ukrainians, themselves, might disapprove of joining
> NATO?
> >
> > --
> > glen
> > Theorem 3. There exists a double master function.
> >
> >
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