[FRIAM] Ukraine and NATO

[Marcus Daniels]

The U.S. can't export enough Liquefied natural gas to displace Gazprom unless it cuts other customers off (South Korea, Japan, China).

 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=50598

According to the Economist, Gazprom is delivering 230m cm/d to Europe.

If Europe could ride out Putin holding back natural gas by using its reserves, and the U.S. stepped in with more shipments, it could be devastating.   And the U.S. could give European leaders the I Told You So treatment.  The timing is bad for Russia, as spring is coming.

Marcus
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I first note that the US engineered a coup in the Ukraine to eject a pro-Russian President.

I add that NOT having any former Warsaw Bloc or former Soviet Republic incorporated as a NATO state was explicitly promised prior to the USSR peacefully disintegrating.

And how many nations has the US invaded since Gorbachev’s premiership?

—— Par


On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com<mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
I think the issue is, like Sweden and Finland, they have the role to Russia as buffers to U.S. medium range missiles.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:37 AM, glen <gepropella at gmail.com<mailto:gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Why Ukraine is still not a NATO member: who is to blame and what to do?
> https://uacrisis.org/en/why-ukraine-is-still-not-in-nato
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> Does anyone here have any better understanding of why Ukraine membership is so "toxic"? Is this simply a disagreement between hawks and doves wrt Putin's dream of a new USSR? I seem to remember back when Crimea was first occupied by Russia that nearly half the people really did identify more as Russians than Ukrainians. Ignoring that polls are fraught, is there a sense that a significant bloc Ukrainians, themselves, might disapprove of joining NATO?
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> glen
> Theorem 3. There exists a double master function.
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