[FRIAM] quotes and questions

[Marcus Daniels]

Wokeness or antifa are two reactions to bad faith.  At some point communication is no longer occurring and it is delusional to expect a civil dialog.   When that happens it is just a matter of whether to keep taking a beating in the name of a principle that the other party does not care about (who IS the audience for this demonstration of futility?) or to use other means that they cannot ignore.

Another way to deal with Trump-like people on social media would be to scale the the fact checking with the lying, so that liars have an unblockable paragraph of injected correction surrounding each false claim.   Unfortunately then the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and that the narcissist gets the attention they seek.  In that sense cancellation is better.

On May 10, 2022, at 7:42 PM, Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm> wrote:


Quotes:

"A thing without oppositions ipso facto does not exist ... existence lies in opposition." C.S. Peirce.

"It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep truth." Neils Bohr.

Questions:
What is the negation of evolution? Natural Selection? Survival of the 'Fittest'?

What is the negation of 'bleeding heart liberalism'? Of Trumpism? Of "wokeness?"

Quote:

"Examine the lives of the best and most fruitful people and peoples and ask yourselves whether a tree which is supposed to grow to a proud height could do so without bad weather and storms; [1] whether misfortune and external resistance, whether any kinds of hatred, jealousy, stubbornness, mistrust, hardness, greed, and violence to not belong to the favorable conditions without which any great grown even of virtue is scarecely possible." F. Nietzsche (emphasis his)

[1] The Biosphere 2 project encountered a problem with trees falling over far before they reached their maturity. It was from lack of wind. Wind and mechanical stress was required to grow the hard tissues that allowed the tree to stand.

Questions:

To what extent do we (denizens of FRIAM and their local cultures) require the kinds of stress being encountered in the world?

I suspect that there needs to be a balance between realizable civilization and stresses, but how is that balance defoined and, more importantly, found and maintained?

Concrete example of last question: Will the Twitterites end up being a better or worse 'culture' post-Musk?

davew

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